The Communicators
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it. Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley. 1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject? [NJIT logo]<https://www.njit.edu/> Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu<mailto:evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu> • (973) 596-3065<tel:9735963065> https://web.njit.edu/~evank <https://web.njit.edu/~evank%0b>@TechnicallyEvan<https://twitter.com/technicallyevan>
Definitely the people who wrote hacker zines and bulletin boards, not least because they combined a political point of view with their technical writing On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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Agreed; I am counting them among the microcomputer generation. These people and their work products are, fortunately, readily accessible. Right now I’m looking for input on the pre-1965 question. [NJIT logo]<https://www.njit.edu/> Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu<mailto:evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu> • (973) 596-3065<tel:9735963065> https://web.njit.edu/~evank <https://web.njit.edu/~evank%0b>@TechnicallyEvan<https://twitter.com/technicallyevan> From: Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 11:02 AM To: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> Cc: "members@SIGCIS.org" <members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators Definitely the people who wrote hacker zines and bulletin boards, not least because they combined a political point of view with their technical writing On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu>> wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it. Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley. 1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject? [NJIT logo]<https://www.njit.edu/> Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu<mailto:evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu> • (973) 596-3065<tel:9735963065> https://web.njit.edu/~evank <https://web.njit.edu/~evank%0b>@TechnicallyEvan<https://twitter.com/technicallyevan> _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org<http://sigcis.org>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
I wouldn't know how to begin writing about this, but Asimov comes immediately to mind for pre 1965. On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:04 AM Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> wrote:
Definitely the people who wrote hacker zines and bulletin boards, not least because they combined a political point of view with their technical writing
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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Good suggestion! Science fiction often tells us about the present, sometimes more than the future.----Evan Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic CommunicationsAdjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evank@njit.edu(973) 596-3065Https://web.njit.edu/~evank@TechnicallyEvan -------- Original message --------From: Adam Hyland <achyland@uw.edu> Date: 3/17/22 11:15 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> Cc: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu>, "members@SIGCIS.org" <members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators I wouldn't know how to begin writing about this, but Asimov comes immediately to mind for pre 1965. On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:04 AM Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> wrote:Definitely the people who wrote hacker zines and bulletin boards, not least because they combined a political point of view with their technical writingOn Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it. Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.)Are there existing papers on this subject? Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu • (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank @TechnicallyEvan _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org-- Adam Hyland (he/him)adampunk.comUW HCDE PhD Student
Evan, The compendium Faster Than Thought: A Symposium on Digital Computing Machines, BV Bowden, ed. first published in 1953 is valuable. I've also found some good info both pre- and post-1965 in Datamation that address many of the real and perceived problems of the times. And even though published at the end of the 1960s, Jean Sammet's Programming Languages has some excellent coverage of pre-1965 technologies and activities. Regards, Dave Dave Foster davidfos@ttu.edu 806-282-4856 ________________________________ From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 10:23 To: Adam Hyland <achyland@uw.edu>; Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> Cc: members@SIGCIS.org <members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators Good suggestion! Science fiction often tells us about the present, sometimes more than the future. ---- Evan Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu> (973) 596-3065<tel:(973)%20596-3065> Https://web.njit.edu/~evank<https://urldefense.com/v3/__Https://web.njit.edu/*evank__;fg!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!_zwfYdgPOw2y_7mXbAQ9jABmIug2u1J-KwqL9Fd_9MR4zziXm4MUd_l3jNZrIug$> @TechnicallyEvan -------- Original message -------- From: Adam Hyland <achyland@uw.edu> Date: 3/17/22 11:15 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> Cc: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu>, "members@SIGCIS.org" <members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators I wouldn't know how to begin writing about this, but Asimov comes immediately to mind for pre 1965. On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:04 AM Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu<mailto:jean.graham@stonybrook.edu>> wrote: Definitely the people who wrote hacker zines and bulletin boards, not least because they combined a political point of view with their technical writing On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu>> wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it. Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley. 1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject? 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Hi Evan, David Ferro and Eric Swedin’s anthology, "Science Fiction and Computing: Essays on Interlinked Domains" (McFarland & Company, 2011) is a series of essays about science fiction that affected real-life computing. I don’t recall how much coverage there was of pre-1965 SF. I used to teach Asimov’s short story “The Last Question” (1956), which is one of his most widely read, but I don’t know if it influenced actual computing. Janet Dr. Janet Abbate Professor, Science, Technology and Society Virginia Tech Co-director, VT National Capital Region STS program liberalarts.vt.edu/sts www.facebook.com/VirginiaTechSTS https://sites.google.com/vt.edu/stsconnect/
On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
Good suggestion! Science fiction often tells us about the present, sometimes more than the future.
---- Evan Koblentz
Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing
evank@njit.edu (973) 596-3065 Https://web.njit.edu/~evank @TechnicallyEvan
-------- Original message -------- From: Adam Hyland <achyland@uw.edu> Date: 3/17/22 11:15 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> Cc: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu>, "members@SIGCIS.org" <members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators
I wouldn't know how to begin writing about this, but Asimov comes immediately to mind for pre 1965.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:04 AM Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> wrote: Definitely the people who wrote hacker zines and bulletin boards, not least because they combined a political point of view with their technical writing
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
• Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) • Are there existing papers on this subject?
Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu • (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank @TechnicallyEvan
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Hi Evan and all, I would add George Orwell on the "World Brain" as well as Paul Otlett's Mundaneum - not explicitly computers but definitely imagining a networked, world wide information sharing system. yrs, Lori On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:25 PM Janet Abbate <abbate@vt.edu> wrote:
Hi Evan,
David Ferro and Eric Swedin’s anthology, "Science Fiction and Computing: Essays on Interlinked Domains" (McFarland & Company, 2011) is a series of essays about science fiction that affected real-life computing. I don’t recall how much coverage there was of pre-1965 SF.
I used to teach Asimov’s short story “The Last Question” (1956), which is one of his most widely read, but I don’t know if it influenced actual computing.
Janet
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
Good suggestion! Science fiction often tells us about the present, sometimes more than the future.
---- Evan Koblentz
Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing
evank@njit.edu (973) 596-3065 Https://web.njit.edu/~evank @TechnicallyEvan
-------- Original message -------- From: Adam Hyland <achyland@uw.edu> Date: 3/17/22 11:15 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> Cc: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu>, "members@SIGCIS.org" < members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators
I wouldn't know how to begin writing about this, but Asimov comes immediately to mind for pre 1965.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:04 AM Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> wrote: Definitely the people who wrote hacker zines and bulletin boards, not least because they combined a political point of view with their technical writing
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
• Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) • Are there existing papers on this subject?
Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu • (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank @TechnicallyEvan
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There were lots of people who made predictions about the future (e.g. Ed Berkeley's "Giant Brains"), but your question is about works that computer people acted to bring into being. That is a more restricted set. Not sure of Berkely had that influence on computer engineers and scientists. Alan Kay's description of a "Dynabook"? John Sculley's video about a personal assistant? (Not clear if the folks at Apple or anywhere else took his video as marching orders or not). Maybe a negative writing: Dreyfus's "What Computers Can't Do." As much as it was disparaged, AI researchers did come around to take a different tack on AI, with great success. Whether they were persuaded by Dreyfus's arguments or not I am not sure. Paul Ceruzzi ________________________________ From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Lori Emerson <lori.emerson@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 2:29 PM To: Janet Abbate <abbate@vt.edu> Cc: members@SIGCIS.org <members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators External Email - Exercise Caution Hi Evan and all, I would add George Orwell on the "World Brain" as well as Paul Otlett's Mundaneum - not explicitly computers but definitely imagining a networked, world wide information sharing system. yrs, Lori On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:25 PM Janet Abbate <abbate@vt.edu<mailto:abbate@vt.edu>> wrote: Hi Evan, David Ferro and Eric Swedin’s anthology, "Science Fiction and Computing: Essays on Interlinked Domains" (McFarland & Company, 2011) is a series of essays about science fiction that affected real-life computing. I don’t recall how much coverage there was of pre-1965 SF. I used to teach Asimov’s short story “The Last Question” (1956), which is one of his most widely read, but I don’t know if it influenced actual computing. Janet Dr. Janet Abbate Professor, Science, Technology and Society Virginia Tech Co-director, VT National Capital Region STS program liberalarts.vt.edu/sts<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fliberalarts.vt.edu%2Fsts&data=04%7C01%7Cceruzzip%40si.edu%7C7a909c28ad8f40a6279a08da0844229f%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637831386134020572%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=A530tI2bk5tBrO7IvWFd1W8mTZcuwKhKDyo1RQDPEwE%3D&reserved=0> www.facebook.com/VirginiaTechSTS<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FVirginiaTechSTS&data=04%7C01%7Cceruzzip%40si.edu%7C7a909c28ad8f40a6279a08da0844229f%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637831386134020572%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=S5eBChUSc1e5ZQ4wRZFy7GE0gTh4ZqnPFBTaACZSoXk%3D&reserved=0> https://sites.google.com/vt.edu/stsconnect/<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fvt.edu%2Fstsconnect%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cceruzzip%40si.edu%7C7a909c28ad8f40a6279a08da0844229f%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637831386134020572%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=zW%2B4W02YlvIqt%2F2Vxp0jjJVt7Cz8N2%2FHCRP6UvvB%2BQQ%3D&reserved=0>
On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu>> wrote:
Good suggestion! Science fiction often tells us about the present, sometimes more than the future.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Adam Hyland <achyland@uw.edu<mailto:achyland@uw.edu>> Date: 3/17/22 11:15 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu<mailto:jean.graham@stonybrook.edu>> Cc: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu>>, "members@SIGCIS.org" <members@sigcis.org<mailto:members@sigcis.org>> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators
I wouldn't know how to begin writing about this, but Asimov comes immediately to mind for pre 1965.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:04 AM Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu<mailto:jean.graham@stonybrook.edu>> wrote: Definitely the people who wrote hacker zines and bulletin boards, not least because they combined a political point of view with their technical writing
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu>> wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
• Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) • Are there existing papers on this subject?
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For Dreyfus, it should I think be What Computers STILL Can't Do (1992 I think). Ask me, as a lurker/observer, the "fallacy of the first step" remains exceedingly operative. Pretty amazing too that HD first called it in the Nixon era. JDF James Dougal Fleming<https://libberleeber.com><http://www.sfu.ca/english/faculty-staff/profiles/j-d--fleming.Jameshtml> Professor, Department of English Simon Fraser University Burnaby/Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. So spake the fervent Angel, but his zeal None seconded, as out of season judged, Or singular and rash -- Paradise Lost ________________________________ From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Ceruzzi, Paul <CeruzziP@si.edu> Sent: March 17, 2022 12:27 PM To: Lori Emerson; Janet Abbate Cc: members@SIGCIS.org Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators There were lots of people who made predictions about the future (e.g. Ed Berkeley's "Giant Brains"), but your question is about works that computer people acted to bring into being. That is a more restricted set. Not sure of Berkely had that influence on computer engineers and scientists. Alan Kay's description of a "Dynabook"? John Sculley's video about a personal assistant? (Not clear if the folks at Apple or anywhere else took his video as marching orders or not). Maybe a negative writing: Dreyfus's "What Computers Can't Do." As much as it was disparaged, AI researchers did come around to take a different tack on AI, with great success. Whether they were persuaded by Dreyfus's arguments or not I am not sure. Paul Ceruzzi ________________________________ From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Lori Emerson <lori.emerson@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 2:29 PM To: Janet Abbate <abbate@vt.edu> Cc: members@SIGCIS.org <members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators External Email - Exercise Caution Hi Evan and all, I would add George Orwell on the "World Brain" as well as Paul Otlett's Mundaneum - not explicitly computers but definitely imagining a networked, world wide information sharing system. yrs, Lori On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:25 PM Janet Abbate <abbate@vt.edu<mailto:abbate@vt.edu>> wrote: Hi Evan, David Ferro and Eric Swedin’s anthology, "Science Fiction and Computing: Essays on Interlinked Domains" (McFarland & Company, 2011) is a series of essays about science fiction that affected real-life computing. I don’t recall how much coverage there was of pre-1965 SF. I used to teach Asimov’s short story “The Last Question” (1956), which is one of his most widely read, but I don’t know if it influenced actual computing. Janet Dr. Janet Abbate Professor, Science, Technology and Society Virginia Tech Co-director, VT National Capital Region STS program liberalarts.vt.edu/sts<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fliberalarts.vt.edu%2Fsts&data=04%7C01%7Cceruzzip%40si.edu%7C7a909c28ad8f40a6279a08da0844229f%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637831386134020572%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=A530tI2bk5tBrO7IvWFd1W8mTZcuwKhKDyo1RQDPEwE%3D&reserved=0> www.facebook.com/VirginiaTechSTS<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FVirginiaTechSTS&data=04%7C01%7Cceruzzip%40si.edu%7C7a909c28ad8f40a6279a08da0844229f%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637831386134020572%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=S5eBChUSc1e5ZQ4wRZFy7GE0gTh4ZqnPFBTaACZSoXk%3D&reserved=0> https://sites.google.com/vt.edu/stsconnect/<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fvt.edu%2Fstsconnect%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cceruzzip%40si.edu%7C7a909c28ad8f40a6279a08da0844229f%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637831386134020572%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=zW%2B4W02YlvIqt%2F2Vxp0jjJVt7Cz8N2%2FHCRP6UvvB%2BQQ%3D&reserved=0>
On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu>> wrote:
Good suggestion! Science fiction often tells us about the present, sometimes more than the future.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Adam Hyland <achyland@uw.edu<mailto:achyland@uw.edu>> Date: 3/17/22 11:15 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu<mailto:jean.graham@stonybrook.edu>> Cc: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu>>, "members@SIGCIS.org" <members@sigcis.org<mailto:members@sigcis.org>> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators
I wouldn't know how to begin writing about this, but Asimov comes immediately to mind for pre 1965.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:04 AM Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu<mailto:jean.graham@stonybrook.edu>> wrote: Definitely the people who wrote hacker zines and bulletin boards, not least because they combined a political point of view with their technical writing
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu>> wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
• Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) • Are there existing papers on this subject?
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Thank you Paul. I did not intend to limit it to only works by people in the industry. I want to include others too. The important thing is, whoever they are, they should be people whose writing somehow * changed * the industry, not just commented/reported on it. On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:27 PM Ceruzzi, Paul <CeruzziP@si.edu> wrote:
There were lots of people who made predictions about the future (e.g. Ed Berkeley's "Giant Brains"), but your question is about works that computer people acted to bring into being. That is a more restricted set. Not sure of Berkely had that influence on computer engineers and scientists. Alan Kay's description of a "Dynabook"? John Sculley's video about a personal assistant? (Not clear if the folks at Apple or anywhere else took his video as marching orders or not).
Maybe a negative writing: Dreyfus's "What Computers Can't Do." As much as it was disparaged, AI researchers did come around to take a different tack on AI, with great success. Whether they were persuaded by Dreyfus's arguments or not I am not sure.
Paul Ceruzzi
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*External Email - Exercise Caution* Hi Evan and all,
I would add George Orwell on the "World Brain" as well as Paul Otlett's Mundaneum - not explicitly computers but definitely imagining a networked, world wide information sharing system.
yrs, Lori
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:25 PM Janet Abbate <abbate@vt.edu> wrote:
Hi Evan,
David Ferro and Eric Swedin’s anthology, "Science Fiction and Computing: Essays on Interlinked Domains" (McFarland & Company, 2011) is a series of essays about science fiction that affected real-life computing. I don’t recall how much coverage there was of pre-1965 SF.
I used to teach Asimov’s short story “The Last Question” (1956), which is one of his most widely read, but I don’t know if it influenced actual computing.
Janet
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
Good suggestion! Science fiction often tells us about the present, sometimes more than the future.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Adam Hyland <achyland@uw.edu> Date: 3/17/22 11:15 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> Cc: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu>, "members@SIGCIS.org" < members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators
I wouldn't know how to begin writing about this, but Asimov comes immediately to mind for pre 1965.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:04 AM Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> wrote: Definitely the people who wrote hacker zines and bulletin boards, not least because they combined a political point of view with their technical writing
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
• Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) • Are there existing papers on this subject?
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To Janet's suggestion, one of the sf stories that features in Ferro and Swedin's book is Murray Leinster's 1946 short story "A Logic Named Joe <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Logic_Named_Joe>". ( https://www.baen.com/chapters/W200506/0743499107___2.htm ) I've occasionally assigned it to undergrads and it makes for great conversations. Did it change computing? Not sure. But it certainly was prescient. Luke Fernandez Weber State University lfernandez.org On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:25 PM Janet Abbate <abbate@vt.edu> wrote:
Hi Evan,
David Ferro and Eric Swedin’s anthology, "Science Fiction and Computing: Essays on Interlinked Domains" (McFarland & Company, 2011) is a series of essays about science fiction that affected real-life computing. I don’t recall how much coverage there was of pre-1965 SF.
I used to teach Asimov’s short story “The Last Question” (1956), which is one of his most widely read, but I don’t know if it influenced actual computing.
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
Good suggestion! Science fiction often tells us about the present, sometimes more than the future.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Adam Hyland <achyland@uw.edu> Date: 3/17/22 11:15 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> Cc: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu>, "members@SIGCIS.org" < members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators
I wouldn't know how to begin writing about this, but Asimov comes immediately to mind for pre 1965.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:04 AM Jean Graham <jean.graham@stonybrook.edu> wrote: Definitely the people who wrote hacker zines and bulletin boards, not least because they combined a political point of view with their technical writing
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
• Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) • Are there existing papers on this subject?
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 10:58 AM, Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) Are there existing papers on this subject?
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On 3/17/2022 7:58 AM, Evan Koblentz wrote:
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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J.C.R. Licklider: Man-Machine Symbiosis. J.C.R. Licklider and Robert W. Taylor: The Computer as a Communication Device. http://memex.org/licklider.pdf
The authors of the papers in the Computers and Thought collection, perhaps. On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 12:30 PM Paul McJones <paul@mcjones.org> wrote:
On 3/17/2022 7:58 AM, Evan Koblentz wrote:
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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J.C.R. Licklider: Man-Machine Symbiosis. J.C.R. Licklider and Robert W. Taylor: The Computer as a Communication Device. http://memex.org/licklider.pdf
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J.C.R. Licklider: Man-Machine Symbiosis. J.C.R. Licklider and Robert W. Taylor: The Computer as a Communication Device. http://memex.org/licklider.pdf
Lick’s work is another good suggestion. Thank you Paul. [NJIT logo]<https://www.njit.edu/> Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu<mailto:evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu> • (973) 596-3065<tel:9735963065> https://web.njit.edu/~evank <https://web.njit.edu/~evank%0b>@TechnicallyEvan<https://twitter.com/technicallyevan>
There's Ted Nelson's /Computer Lib/Dream Machines/, which, among other things, got people thinking about hypertext. Herb Jellinek On 3/17/22 9:44 AM, Evan Koblentz wrote:
J.C.R. Licklider: Man-Machine Symbiosis.
J.C.R. Licklider and Robert W. Taylor: The Computer as a Communication Device.
http://memex.org/licklider.pdf
Lick’s work is another good suggestion. Thank you Paul.
Absolutely; I teach his work to my students and I include him among the micro generation. Currently I’m looking for pre-1965 authors. [NJIT logo]<https://www.njit.edu/> Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu<mailto:evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu> • (973) 596-3065<tel:9735963065> https://web.njit.edu/~evank <https://web.njit.edu/~evank%0b>@TechnicallyEvan<https://twitter.com/technicallyevan> From: Herb Jellinek <jellinek@newscenter.com> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 12:50 PM To: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu>, Paul McJones <paul@mcjones.org> Cc: "members@lists.sigcis.org" <members@lists.sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators There's Ted Nelson's Computer Lib/Dream Machines, which, among other things, got people thinking about hypertext. Herb Jellinek On 3/17/22 9:44 AM, Evan Koblentz wrote:
J.C.R. Licklider: Man-Machine Symbiosis. J.C.R. Licklider and Robert W. Taylor: The Computer as a Communication Device. http://memex.org/licklider.pdf
Lick’s work is another good suggestion. Thank you Paul.
Evan--There were a number of books in the 1950s by industry consultants which were required reading by those of us designing systems to use computers. Dick Canning was one of the authors, but there were a few others. Are they of any interest? They influenced our applications work at GE Louisville and GE Poughkeepsie. And Herb Grosch was quite prolific during that period. Burt Grad -----Original Message----- From: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> To: Paul McJones <paul@mcjones.org> Cc: members@lists.sigcis.org <members@lists.sigcis.org> Sent: Thu, Mar 17, 2022 12:44 pm Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators #yiv7948493541 #yiv7948493541 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv7948493541 #yiv7948493541 p.yiv7948493541MsoNormal, #yiv7948493541 li.yiv7948493541MsoNormal, #yiv7948493541 div.yiv7948493541MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv7948493541 a:link, #yiv7948493541 span.yiv7948493541MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7948493541 span.yiv7948493541EmailStyle21 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv7948493541 .yiv7948493541MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv7948493541 div.yiv7948493541WordSection1 {}#yiv7948493541 _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv7948493541 ol {margin-bottom:0in;}#yiv7948493541 ul {margin-bottom:0in;}#yiv7948493541 >> J.C.R. Licklider: Man-Machine Symbiosis. J.C.R. Licklider and Robert W. Taylor: The Computer as a Communication Device. http://memex.org/licklider.pdf Lick’s work is another good suggestion. Thank you Paul. | | Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu • (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank @TechnicallyEvan | _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
Evan, Norbert Wiener was both someone working inside various computing fields and was also a best selling author and computers come up both in Cybernetics and the Human Use of Human Beings. So I think he must be important in terms of understanding the public reception of computing, which would have to feed back into computing at some level in addition to his contributions to forming a set of research programs in Cybernetics and allied fields. Douglas Hartree strikes me as someone who had an outsized influence in the perception of computing inside the sciences and technical fields in the 40s and 50s if not as much with the general public. Although he was also a contributer in terms of just directly doing computing in science. I think Alan Turing not only made technical contributions to comptuers and computing, I think some of his notable contributions are less hard contributions to computing and more talking about computing, again both to technically minded and lay audiences. For example he actually gave a BBC radio lecture on "Can Digital Computers Think?" and in that vein his more famous essay "Computing Machinery and Intelligence" less direct techincal contributions to computing than about computing if I understand your sense. BV Bowden's Faster Than Thought, has been mentioned, I would second that my sense is that it was read both by those inside the field already and the general public and that it was an important starting point for many people's understanding of computing. Note Turing was a contributor to that. Marshall McLuhan was a very successful author and speaker on ideas about communicaiton that included and extended at least a little to the use of computers in communications. I don't know much about McLuhan or his influence on thought about computers, but it seems like a factor. I'm sure a lot of computer pioneers engaged in some writing and talking about computing in general. How successful that was at the time and what it did to the computing field is obscure so the above list is people I am relatively sure had an outsized influence. For example I know that Wallace J. Eckert astronomer, IBM researcher and director of the First Thomas J. Watson laboratory co-wrote with Rebecca Jones in 1955 Faster, Faster Faster, Faster. A Simple Description of a Giant Electronic Calculator and the Problems It Solves, about the NORC computer (the Naval Ordinance Research Calculator), but also just about how computers in general work and can be used. I have no idea what sales were like for that book, but it was translated into German at least suggesting some success (or that IBM was really desperate to sell it anyway). Eckert also spent some time talking up computer and punched card methods to other scientists and engineers especially around 1945-1954 and published an early book on Punched Card Methods in 1940 that had at least a little influence in science and tech. I suspect if you look at other pioneers (Wilkes, Mauchley, Hopper etc.) you can find lots of examples of them writing about computing in addition to their direct contributions. How much this shaped letter developments is probably somewhat obscure. There are certainly a fair number of books on how cybernetic ideas influenced later computer and computer adjacent projects like From Cyberculture to Counterculture and Medina's Cybernetic Revolutionaries and Kline's the Cybernetic Moment touches on this more generally. I've just been reading a bunch of those books so they are frontmost in my mind. Likewise and closely related it is commonly accepted by historians of computing in my experience that Operation Research played a big role in the use of computers (and in the books I previously mentioned Cybernetics and OR is often intertwined), so general thought around that probably shaped comptuer use and projects (cue drawing of a WWII plane with bullet holes in it). -- Yours Truly, Allan Olley, PhD http://individual.utoronto.ca/fofound On Thu, 17 Mar 2022, Evan Koblentz wrote:
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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Evan et al, This is a great topic! I think Patrick McCray is traveling at the moment, but he is currently at work on a book that examines the history of computing via a number of books on computing. His argument is that writing on computing shaped how people experienced and thought about computing. His chapters are organized around a set number of books (can't remember the number), and his narrative covers the post-WWII period up to about 2000. As he examines this set of books, he also explores other books/writings, the publishing industry (and the role computers played in publishing), the rise of "tech journalism," and many other topics. I'm sure he would love to chat about what he's up to. Lee On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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We(MIT Museum) recently acquired some of Edmund Berkeley’s games (I’ve attached a picture of Brainiac) from the estate of his Berkely’s son (most of the papers went to the Babbage Institute that had already acquired materials from Berkeley.). One thing that I learned is that Patrick McGovern’s (MIT, 1959) first job was writing for Berkeley’s Computers & Automation magazine. The folks at Baker Library (or maybe people on this list) will know when the first B-School case studies about computers and computing were introduced into the curriculum. Debbie Douglas Deborah G. Douglas, PhD • Director of Collections and Curator of Science and Technology, MIT Museum; Research Associate, Program in Science, Technology, and Society • Room N51-209 • 265 Massachusetts Avenue • Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 • ddouglas@mit.edu<mailto:ddouglas@mit.edu> • 617-253-1766 telephone • 617-253-8994 facsimile • http://mitmuseum.mit.edu • she/her/hers From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Lee Vinsel <lee.vinsel@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 4:12 PM To: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> Cc: members@SIGCIS.org <members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators Evan et al, This is a great topic! I think Patrick McCray is traveling at the moment, but he is currently at work on a book that examines the history of computing via a number of books on computing. His argument is that writing on computing shaped how people experienced and thought about computing. His chapters are organized around a set number of books (can't remember the number), and his narrative covers the post-WWII period up to about 2000. As he examines this set of books, he also explores other books/writings, the publishing industry (and the role computers played in publishing), the rise of "tech journalism," and many other topics. I'm sure he would love to chat about what he's up to. Lee On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu>> wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it. Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley. 1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject? [NJIT logo]<https://www.njit.edu/> Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu<mailto:evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu> • (973) 596-3065<tel:9735963065> https://web.njit.edu/~evank <https://web.njit.edu/~evank%0b>@TechnicallyEvan<https://twitter.com/technicallyevan> _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org<http://sigcis.org>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org -- Associate Professor Department of Science, Technology, and Society Virginia Tech leevinsel.com<http://leevinsel.com> @STS_News
There were many influential publications outside the English-speaking world. One was even translated in Russian: Tracking Down a Seminal Work on Computer Construction – in Russian | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM October 23, 2020 Perhaps also of interest: Leonardo Torres Quevedo, a Brilliant but Forgotten Spanish Inventor | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM March 7, 2022 Promoting Economic Development through Technical Innovation | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM February 14, 2022 The Calculating Machine from the Concentration Camp | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM January 24, 2022 Herbert -- Bruderer Informatik Seehaldenstrasse 26 Postfach 47 CH-9401 Rorschach Schweiz/Switzerland Telefon +41 71 855 77 11 ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht---- Von : ddouglas@mit.edu Datum : 18/03/2022 - 00:46 (MN) An : lee.vinsel@gmail.com, evank@njit.edu Cc : members@sigcis.org Betreff : Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0.0in; font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Calibri , sans-serif; } a:link, span.MsoHyperlink { mso-style-priority: 99; color: blue; text-decoration: underline; } p.gmail-m7507273740310723784msolistparagraph, li.gmail-m7507273740310723784msolistparagraph, div.gmail-m7507273740310723784msolistparagraph { mso-style-name: gmail-m_7507273740310723784msolistparagraph; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-right: 0.0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; margin-left: 0.0in; font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: Calibri , sans-serif; } span.EmailStyle19 { mso-style-type: personal-reply; font-family: Calibri , sans-serif; color: windowtext; } *.MsoChpDefault { mso-style-type: export-only; font-size: 10.0pt; } div.WordSection1 { page: WordSection1; } * { } * { } * { } * { } * { } * { } * { } * { } * { } ol { margin-bottom: 0.0in; } ul { margin-bottom: 0.0in; } We(MIT Museum) recently acquired some of Edmund Berkeley’s games (I’ve attached a picture of Brainiac) from the estate of his Berkely’s son (most of the papers went to the Babbage Institute that had already acquired materials from Berkeley.). One thing that I learned is that Patrick McGovern’s (MIT, 1959) first job was writing for Berkeley’s Computers & Automation magazine. The folks at Baker Library (or maybe people on this list) will know when the first B-School case studies about computers and computing were introduced into the curriculum. Debbie Douglas Deborah G. Douglas, PhD • Director of Collections and Curator of Science and Technology, MIT Museum; Research Associate, Program in Science, Technology, and Society • Room N51-209 • 265 Massachusetts Avenue • Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 • ddouglas@mit.edu • 617-253-1766 telephone • 617-253-8994 facsimile • http://mitmuseum.mit.edu • she/her/hers From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Lee Vinsel <lee.vinsel@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 4:12 PM To: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> Cc: members@SIGCIS.org <members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators Evan et al, This is a great topic! I think Patrick McCray is traveling at the moment, but he is currently at work on a book that examines the history of computing via a number of books on computing. His argument is that writing on computing shaped how people experienced and thought about computing. His chapters are organized around a set number of books (can't remember the number), and his narrative covers the post-WWII period up to about 2000. As he examines this set of books, he also explores other books/writings, the publishing industry (and the role computers played in publishing), the rise of "tech journalism," and many other topics. I'm sure he would love to chat about what he's up to. Lee On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it. Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) Are there existing papers on this subject? Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu • (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank @TechnicallyEvan _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org -- Associate Professor Department of Science, Technology, and Society Virginia Tech leevinsel.com @STS_News
We (MIT Museum) recently acquired some of Edmund Berkeley’s games from the estate of his Berkely’s son (most of the papers went to the Babbage Institute that had already acquired materials from Berkeley.). One thing that I learned is that Patrick McGovern’s (MIT, 1959) first job was writing for Berkeley’s Computers & Automation magazine. The folks at Baker Library (or maybe people on this list) will know when the first B-School case studies about computers and computing were introduced into the curriculum. Debbie Douglas Deborah G. Douglas, PhD • Director of Collections and Curator of Science and Technology, MIT Museum; Research Associate, Program in Science, Technology, and Society • Room N51-209 • 265 Massachusetts Avenue • Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 • ddouglas@mit.edu<mailto:ddouglas@mit.edu> • 617-253-1766 telephone • 617-253-8994 facsimile • http://mitmuseum.mit.edu • she/her/hers From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Lee Vinsel <lee.vinsel@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 4:12 PM To: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> Cc: members@SIGCIS.org <members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators Evan et al, This is a great topic! I think Patrick McCray is traveling at the moment, but he is currently at work on a book that examines the history of computing via a number of books on computing. His argument is that writing on computing shaped how people experienced and thought about computing. His chapters are organized around a set number of books (can't remember the number), and his narrative covers the post-WWII period up to about 2000. As he examines this set of books, he also explores other books/writings, the publishing industry (and the role computers played in publishing), the rise of "tech journalism," and many other topics. I'm sure he would love to chat about what he's up to. Lee On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu>> wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it. Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley. 1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject? [NJIT logo]<https://www.njit.edu/> Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu<mailto:evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu> • (973) 596-3065<tel:9735963065> https://web.njit.edu/~evank <https://web.njit.edu/~evank%0b>@TechnicallyEvan<https://twitter.com/technicallyevan> _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org<http://sigcis.org>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org -- Associate Professor Department of Science, Technology, and Society Virginia Tech leevinsel.com<http://leevinsel.com> @STS_News
Yes, as Debbie mentions we have the Edmund Berkeley papers, it is a very full and large collection (about 90 boxes I think) on his life's work in computing, anti-nuke, and other work. Bernadette Longo published an insightful biography book using the collection. We have copies of Brainiac, and some other artifacts along with the collection of papers. He was a co-founder of ACM so also some in our ACM Organizational Records on Berkeley. Best, Jeff *Please connect: Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-yost-b714566> Twitter <https://twitter.com/jeffreyyost6> CBI-FB <https://www.facebook.com/babbageinstitute> Blockchain & Society FB <https://www.facebook.com/Decentralizedinternet/>* *Jeffrey Yost, Ph.D. @JeffreyYost6* Director, Charles Babbage Institute <http://www.cse.umn.edu/cbi>; Research Professor, HSTM 222 21st Avenue South, University of Minnesota; Minneapolis, MN 55455 *Studies in Computing and Culture book series, Johns Hopkins U. Press * Co-Editor *PI, NSF-funded CBI project "Mining a Useable Past: Perspectives, Paradoxes, and Possibilities with Security and Privacy."* *Blockchain & Society Blog and Site* <https://www.blockchainandsociety.com> (Founder/Leader) *Interfaces: Essays and Reviews in Computing and Culture <https://cse.umn.edu/cbi/interfaces> *Co-Editor (w/ Amanda Wick) *Committee Member, National Academy of Engineering Extraordinary Engineering Impacts on Society* *Making IT Work: A History of the Computer Services Industry (MIT Press) <https://amzn.to/3gqe4R6>* On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 2:49 AM Deborah Douglas <ddouglas@mit.edu> wrote:
We(MIT Museum) recently acquired some of Edmund Berkeley’s games (I’ve attached a picture of Brainiac) from the estate of his Berkely’s son (most of the papers went to the Babbage Institute that had already acquired materials from Berkeley.). One thing that I learned is that Patrick McGovern’s (MIT, 1959) first job was writing for Berkeley’s *Computers & Automation* magazine.
The folks at Baker Library (or maybe people on this list) will know when the first B-School case studies about computers and computing were introduced into the curriculum.
Debbie Douglas
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Evan et al,
This is a great topic! I think Patrick McCray is traveling at the moment, but he is currently at work on a book that examines the history of computing via a number of books on computing. His argument is that writing on computing shaped how people experienced and thought about computing. His chapters are organized around a set number of books (can't remember the number), and his narrative covers the post-WWII period up to about 2000. As he examines this set of books, he also explores other books/writings, the publishing industry (and the role computers played in publishing), the rise of "tech journalism," and many other topics. I'm sure he would love to chat about what he's up to.
Lee
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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Thanks Lee. Sounds like he may have beat me to it! I will make contact. On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 4:11 PM Lee Vinsel <lee.vinsel@gmail.com> wrote:
Evan et al,
This is a great topic! I think Patrick McCray is traveling at the moment, but he is currently at work on a book that examines the history of computing via a number of books on computing. His argument is that writing on computing shaped how people experienced and thought about computing. His chapters are organized around a set number of books (can't remember the number), and his narrative covers the post-WWII period up to about 2000. As he examines this set of books, he also explores other books/writings, the publishing industry (and the role computers played in publishing), the rise of "tech journalism," and many other topics. I'm sure he would love to chat about what he's up to.
Lee
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:58 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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Did nobody mention Babbage himself? He wrote about it before Menabrea, who wrote about it before Lovelace. McCluhan's Global Village is certainly unavoidable. Leslie Comrie. He probably had as much influence as Hartree in promoting computing in the UK, but mainly behind the scenes. I'm not sure he published much. Possibly John Womersley, especially this publication: J. R. Womersley, "Scientific computing in Great Britain", in Mathematical Tables and Other Aids to Computation, 2, 110-117 (1946). Less well known: Pierre de Latil. For background, see http://www.rutherfordjournal.org/article050103.html (and if the images appear broken, see https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~brian/rutherford8.html). I suspect that there were other visionaries not writing in English. On a personal note, I was very much influenced by the September 1966 issue of Scientific American, which was dedicated to "Information". I believe it later came out as a book. It's only 9 months too late for you. Regards Brian Carpenter On 18-Mar-22 03:58, Evan Koblentz wrote:
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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In the UK: Douglas Hartree, and I'll add another recommendation for Vivian Bowden. Hartree's definition of the electronic computer as an unprecedentedly fast but counterintuitively stupid problem-solving tool which could do nothing but follow instructions literally – which appears in his /Nature/ paper, inaugural address, and various media sources around 1946 – may well have been the sole passage point for this characterisation into sources aimed at non-specialists in the UK. It was certainly picked up directly by Bowden, whose 1953 collection /Faster Than Thought/ has also been mentioned in a couple of replies. /FTT /was the first book-length treatment of computers written (in part!) for non-specialist readers in the UK, and was also, judging from Bowden's correspondence, in surprisingly high demand in the USA. I remember Brian Randell once mentioning that the revival of Charles Babbage's name and significance was, on his assessment, begun by Leslie Comrie, who transmitted it to Hartree, who transmitted it to Bowden. I suspect the same may be true of the standard "fast calculating tool" characterisation of computing machines more generally. Opposing this, of course, was the concept of the computer as capable of learning and creativity, as seeded by Alan Turing in his 1950 paper and followed up by Jack Good and Donald Michie. Hope this helps! All best James On 17/03/2022 14:58, Evan Koblentz wrote:
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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Hi: As I recall it, in the mid-1950's the only books available in bookshops (in the UK) when I went looking for ones on computers were Wilkes, Wheeler and Gill's book on EDSAC, Bowden's Faster than Thought, Berkeley's Giant Brains or Machines that Think, and Richards' Arithmetic operations in digital computers. Cheers Brian Randell — School of Computing, Newcastle University, 1 Science Square, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE4 5TG EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 URL = http://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/people/profile/brianrandell.html On 17/03/2022, 22:24, "Members on behalf of James Sumner" <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org on behalf of james.sumner@manchester.ac.uk> wrote: In the UK: Douglas Hartree, and I'll add another recommendation for Vivian Bowden. Hartree's definition of the electronic computer as an unprecedentedly fast but counterintuitively stupid problem-solving tool which could do nothing but follow instructions literally – which appears in his Nature paper, inaugural address, and various media sources around 1946 – may well have been the sole passage point for this characterisation into sources aimed at non-specialists in the UK. It was certainly picked up directly by Bowden, whose 1953 collection Faster Than Thought has also been mentioned in a couple of replies. FTT was the first book-length treatment of computers written (in part!) for non-specialist readers in the UK, and was also, judging from Bowden's correspondence, in surprisingly high demand in the USA. I remember Brian Randell once mentioning that the revival of Charles Babbage's name and significance was, on his assessment, begun by Leslie Comrie, who transmitted it to Hartree, who transmitted it to Bowden. I suspect the same may be true of the standard "fast calculating tool" characterisation of computing machines more generally. Opposing this, of course, was the concept of the computer as capable of learning and creativity, as seeded by Alan Turing in his 1950 paper and followed up by Jack Good and Donald Michie. Hope this helps! All best James On 17/03/2022 14:58, Evan Koblentz wrote: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it. Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley. 1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. 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These proceedings in French of a large European conference are almost unknown: Pérès, Joseph (ed.): Les machines à calculer et la pensée humaine, Paris, 8–13 janvier 1951, Colloques internationaux du Centre national de la recherche scientifique, No. 37, Editions du Centre national de la recherche scientifique (CNRS), Paris 1953, xix, 570 pages see 2017 The Birthplace of Artificial Intelligence? | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM November 3, 2017 Herbert ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht---- Von : evank@njit.edu Datum : 17/03/2022 - 15:58 (MN) An : members@sigcis.org Betreff : [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0.0in; font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Calibri , sans-serif; } a:link, span.MsoHyperlink { mso-style-priority: 99; color: rgb(5,99,193); text-decoration: underline; } p.MsoListParagraph, li.MsoListParagraph, div.MsoListParagraph { mso-style-priority: 34; margin-top: 0.0in; margin-right: 0.0in; margin-bottom: 0.0in; margin-left: 0.5in; font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Calibri , sans-serif; } *.MsoChpDefault { mso-style-type: export-only; font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Calibri , sans-serif; } div.WordSection1 { page: WordSection1; } * { } * { } * { } * { } * { } * { } * { } * { } * { } * { } ol { margin-bottom: 0.0in; } ul { margin-bottom: 0.0in; } I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it. Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) Are there existing papers on this subject? Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu • (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank @TechnicallyEvan
Evan - Following on Deborah’s suggestion regarding business school cases, you might consider looking at other allied fields that were early adopters of computing technologies - the electric power industry, aviation, and industrial manufacturing come to mind. I don’t have any authors to suggest off the top of my head, but articles in the relevant trade journals might signal use of computing technologies that influenced the direction of development of those technologies. When I have a moment, I’ll glance through citations I have for Electrical World and forward anything of interest directly to you. Here’s one little example: "The Computation of Transmission Systems." Editorial. Electrical World 37, no. 20 (May 18 1901): 776. This article points toward integrating automatic control into the design of generators and transmission lines - a precursor to the analog, and later digital, computing and controlling technologies used on growing power networks across the US. Not sure if this is the type of thing you are looking for, but just in case ... -Julie Julie Cohn, Ph.D. Non-Resident Scholar, Center for Energy Studies Baker Institute for Public Policy, Rice University, and Research Historian, Center for Public History University of Houston email: cohnconnor@gmail.com cell: 713.516.0849 Author: The Grid: Biography of an American Technology (MIT Press, 2017) https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/grid
On Mar 18, 2022, at 4:55 AM, herbert.bruderer@bluewin.ch wrote:
These proceedings in French of a large European conference are almost unknown:
Pérès, Joseph (ed.): Les machines à calculer et la pensée humaine, Paris, 8–13 janvier 1951, Colloques internationaux du Centre national de la recherche scientifique, No. 37, Editions du Centre national de la recherche scientifique (CNRS), Paris 1953, xix, 570 pages
see
2017 The Birthplace of Artificial Intelligence? | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM <https://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/222486-the-birthplace-of-artificial-intelligence/fulltext> November 3, 2017
Herbert
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I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) Are there existing papers on this subject?
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Here's another idea on this line from Germany: Rolf Strehl: Die Roboter Sind Unter Uns: Ein Tatsachenbericht. Oldenburg 1952. Title goes Robots Are Among Us. It is a story about the computer and as I recall more factual (better) than the main title suggests. They translated this into at least Finnish. It came out as Aikamme robotit (Robots of our times) in 1954. Best wishes, Petri ________________________________________ From: herbert.bruderer@bluewin.ch <herbert.bruderer@bluewin.ch> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:55 AM To: evank@njit.edu Cc: members@sigcis.org Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators These proceedings in French of a large European conference are almost unknown: Pérès, Joseph (ed.): Les machines à calculer et la pensée humaine, Paris, 8–13 janvier 1951, Colloques internationaux du Centre national de la recherche scientifique, No. 37, Editions du Centre national de la recherche scientifique (CNRS), Paris 1953, xix, 570 pages see 2017 The Birthplace of Artificial Intelligence? | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM<https://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/222486-the-birthplace-of-artificial-intelligence/fulltext> November 3, 2017 Herbert ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht---- Von : evank@njit.edu Datum : 17/03/2022 - 15:58 (MN) An : members@sigcis.org Betreff : [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it. Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley. 1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject? [NJIT logo]<https://www.njit.edu/> Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu • (973) 596-3065<tel:9735963065> https://web.njit.edu/~evank <https://web.njit.edu/~evank%0b>@TechnicallyEvan<https://twitter.com/technicallyevan>
English translation (1955) of Rolf Strehl's book here: https://archive.org/details/dierobotersindun00stre/page/6/mode/2up Best Mark On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 at 13:17, Petri Paju <petpaju@utu.fi> wrote:
Here's another idea on this line from Germany:
Rolf Strehl: Die Roboter Sind Unter Uns: Ein Tatsachenbericht. Oldenburg 1952.
Title goes Robots Are Among Us. It is a story about the computer and as I recall more factual (better) than the main title suggests. They translated this into at least Finnish. It came out as Aikamme robotit (Robots of our times) in 1954.
Best wishes, Petri
________________________________________ From: herbert.bruderer@bluewin.ch <herbert.bruderer@bluewin.ch> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:55 AM To: evank@njit.edu Cc: members@sigcis.org Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The Communicators
These proceedings in French of a large European conference are almost unknown:
Pérès, Joseph (ed.): Les machines à calculer et la pensée humaine, Paris, 8–13 janvier 1951, Colloques internationaux du Centre national de la recherche scientifique, No. 37, Editions du Centre national de la recherche scientifique (CNRS), Paris 1953, xix, 570 pages
see
2017 The Birthplace of Artificial Intelligence? | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM< https://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/222486-the-birthplace-of-artificial-int...
November 3, 2017
Herbert
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I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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Herbert, As I implied yesterday, the influence of that conference was, as far as I can tell, mainly due to Pierre de Latil's popular science book. The conference itself was important in kicking off awareness in the French scientific community, but not (IMHO) elsewhere. [See my article cited yesterday.] Also, Bowden was there, two years before "Faster than Thought". I met two of the participants later in life (Tom Kilburn and Pierre Germain) and attended lectures by another (Maurice Wilkes). Regards Brian Carpenter On 18-Mar-22 22:55, herbert.bruderer@bluewin.ch wrote:
These proceedings in French of a large European conference are almost unknown:
Pérès, Joseph (ed.): Les machines à calculer et la pensée humaine, Paris, 8–13 janvier 1951, Colloques internationaux du Centre national de la recherche scientifique, No. 37, Editions du Centre national de la recherche scientifique (CNRS), Paris 1953, xix, 570 pages
see
*2017*
The Birthplace of Artificial Intelligence? | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM <https://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/222486-the-birthplace-of-artificial-intelligence/fulltext>
*November 3, 2017*
Herbert
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I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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Dear Evan & SIGCIS, I am impressed by the diversity of suggestions from the community, also about that German book about roboters. Thinking about the German discourse, this paper by Konrad Zuse from 1939 could be of interest: Zuse, Konrad: „Calculator for Technical and Scientific Calculations Designed According to a Theoretical Plan“ 1939. Take care and best wishes from Darmstadt, Martin Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter | Post-Doc | digital enthusiast Technische Universität Darmstadt Institut für Geschichte Fachgebiet Technikgeschichte Mail: martin.schmitt@tu-darmstadt.de<mailto:martin.schmitt@tu-darmstadt.de> Tel: +49 6151-16-57327 http://www.computerisierung.com & Assoziierter Wissenschaftler LEIBNIZ-ZENTRUM FÜR ZEITHISTORISCHE FORSCHUNG | POTSDAM Vice Chair IFIP WG 9.7 „History of computing“ Zuletzt erschienen: Die Digitalisierung der Kreditwirtschaft. Computereinsatz in den Sparkassen der Bundesrepublik und der DDR 1957-1991, Göttingen: Wallstein-Verlag 2021, https://www.wallstein-verlag.de/9783835333710-die-digitalisierung-der-kredit... Am 17.03.2022 um 15:58 schrieb Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu>>: I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it. Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley. 1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject? <image001.png><https://www.njit.edu/> Evan A Koblentz Staff Writer, Office of Strategic Communications Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu<mailto:evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu> • (973) 596-3065<tel:9735963065> https://web.njit.edu/~evank <https://web.njit.edu/~evank%0b>@TechnicallyEvan<https://twitter.com/technicallyevan> _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org<http://sigcis.org/>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
Apologize for dredging up an old thread, but attached is a wonderful article in the journal Physics in Canada from 1955 by Beatrice Worsley and JNP Hume on TRANSCODE, a tool best described as a non-portable assembler for the FERUT (a Ferranti Mark I in Toronto). Of note are their three references which serve for their audience of physicists as an introduction to computers. [image: Screen Shot 2022-04-28 at 6.31.34 PM.png] -Adam On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 1:11 PM Schmitt, Martin < martin.schmitt@tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:
Dear Evan & SIGCIS,
I am impressed by the diversity of suggestions from the community, also about that German book about roboters. Thinking about the German discourse, this paper by Konrad Zuse from 1939 could be of interest: Zuse, Konrad: „*Calculator for Technical and Scientific Calculations Designed According to a Theoretical Plan*“ 1939.
Take care and best wishes from Darmstadt, Martin
Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter | Post-Doc | digital enthusiast
Technische Universität Darmstadt Institut für Geschichte Fachgebiet Technikgeschichte
Mail: martin.schmitt@tu-darmstadt.de Tel: +49 6151-16-57327 http://www.computerisierung.com
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Assoziierter Wissenschaftler LEIBNIZ-ZENTRUM FÜR ZEITHISTORISCHE FORSCHUNG | POTSDAM
Vice Chair IFIP WG 9.7 „History of computing“
Zuletzt erschienen: *Die Digitalisierung der Kreditwirtschaft*. Computereinsatz in den Sparkassen der Bundesrepublik und der DDR 1957-1991, Göttingen: Wallstein-Verlag 2021, https://www.wallstein-verlag.de/9783835333710-die-digitalisierung-der-kredit...
Am 17.03.2022 um 15:58 schrieb Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu>:
I’m interested in a new-to-me research angle: the people who changed computing by writing about it.
Lovelace comes to mind. So do Vannevar Bush and Edmund Berkeley.
1. Who else should I consider from prior to 1965? (I have the microcomputer generation covered.) 2. Are there existing papers on this subject?
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