I just found the time to read all the answers. So fascinating to observe how a precise question opens a window to the past with all its facets (disappointed friendships, real estate trading, stock prices, sub-zero fridges etc.). Thank you SIGCIS! ---jan
Am 14.01.2021 um 21:47 schrieb Chuck House <housec1839@gmail.com>:
Follow-up re the Mueller segment, Clark commenting on Lewis’ book, the NEW New Thing, about Clark https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Lewis-on-the-Trail-of-Clark-Aut... <https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Lewis-on-the-Trail-of-Clark-Author-catches-up-2900756.php>
It was indeed a week later, not ‘on the day’ when Mueller cashed it in. “"It's very difficult to see myself in print," says Clark, 55. "It's not a flattering portrayal, but I suppose it's balanced and reasonably fair. I think Michael is an incredibly funny, talented person. He is so bloody observant that you can't spend time with him and hide who you are. I wasn't prepared for that."
However, he says Lewis took a bit of artistic license to spin his yarn. For example, Clark says that Mueller committed suicide a full week after the two spoke, not immediately, as suggested in the book. Clark adds that his own personality came across "as a little greedy, and I never envisioned myself that way because I've shared a lot with the others in all the companies I've been involved with. One of my priorities was to make sure engineers and others were owners of these companies."
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From: "Staiti, Alana" <StaitiA@si.edu <mailto:StaitiA@si.edu>> Date: Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 12:22 PM To: Chuck House <housec1839@gmail.com <mailto:housec1839@gmail.com>>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>>, Jan Müggenburg <jan.mueggenburg@leuphana.de <mailto:jan.mueggenburg@leuphana.de>>, "members@sigcis.org <mailto:members@sigcis.org>" <members@sigcis.org <mailto:members@sigcis.org>> Cc: Andreas Bernard <bernard@leuphana.de <mailto:bernard@leuphana.de>> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Fwd: [CDCinfo] a question for computer historians regarding Netscape
The Archives Center at the National Museum of American History has an oral history interview with Marc Andreeson, conducted in 1995. The interview was recorded on video and cassette tapes. Unfortunately a transcript of the interview isn't available. I'm not sure if there is mention of what happened on that day. Here is the finding aid for this oral history collection: https://sirismm.si.edu/EADpdfs/NMAH.AC.1303.pdf <https://sirismm.si.edu/EADpdfs/NMAH.AC.1303.pdf>.
Very sad about Glenn Mueller. I didn't know that part of the story either.
Be well, Alana
Alana Staiti (she/her/hers) Curator of the History of Computers and Information Sciences
National Museum of American History
Smithsonian Institution
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I'd kinda forgotten that factoid. The VC who committed suicide wasn't just a friend, it was Glenn Mueller who had funded Clark to do Silicon Graphics, and made a bazillion dollars in the process. But Mueller et al had cut deals as SGI grew, that Clark felt minimized his own fortune from SGI, and when it came time to seek investors, Clark pointedly told Mueller to go pound sand, and he gave the deal to John Doerr at Kleiner-Perkins as I recall the story. Glenn, deeply despondent about this (and some other things), shot himself while cruising on his ship in Baja California. I didn't realize it was the same day--I thought there was a week or two lagtime
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On 1/14/21, 11:44 AM, "Members on behalf of Brian E Carpenter" <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org <mailto:members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>> wrote:
Jan,
I don't think there was a celebration. According to "Netscape Time", page 76, on that same day (which was just after the famous Clark/Andreesen visit to Champaign-Urbana), Clark got the news that a friend and business partner had committed suicide. So not a time for celebration. Founding an empty company was just a routine administrative act anyway. They didn't really start hiring staff and doing work until May.
Regards Brian Carpenter
On 14-Jan-21 22:44, Jan Müggenburg wrote: > Dear everyone, > > here’s an interesting question concerning the history of Netscape from my dear colleague Andreas Bernard. How did Andreessen and Clark (and probably Perkins?) celebrate the foundation of Mosaic Communications Corporation on April 4th 1994? Can someone help? > > ---jan > > Prof. Dr. Jan Müggenburg > > Assistant Professor for Media History and History of Science > > Leuphana University of Lueneburg > Institute for Culture and Aesthetics of Digital Media > Universitätsallee 1, C5.324 > Fon: 0049 4131 6771647 > 21335 Lueneburg > E-Mail: jan.mueggenburg@leuphana.de <mailto:jan.mueggenburg@leuphana.de> <mailto:jan.mueggenburg@leuphana.de <mailto:jan.mueggenburg@leuphana.de>> > >> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht: >> >> *Von: *"Andreas Bernard" <CDCinfo@leuphana.de <mailto:CDCinfo@leuphana.de> <mailto:CDCinfo@leuphana.de <mailto:CDCinfo@leuphana.de>>> >> *Betreff: **[CDCinfo] a question for computer historians* >> *Datum: *14. Januar 2021 um 10:34:56 MEZ >> *Antwort an: *"Andreas Bernard" <bernard@leuphana.de <mailto:bernard@leuphana.de> <mailto:bernard@leuphana.de <mailto:bernard@leuphana.de>>> >> >> Dear all, >> I have a little question concerning a certain day in recent computer history. Has anybody done some research or does anybody know a source about April 4 1994, the day Andreessen and Clark founded Netscape? I would need some precise information on the circumstances of that day: when and where did they release the foundation, how did they celebrate it, what did they do in the evening of April 4 (e.g. a festive dinner, a big party)? >> It would be so great if somebody among us knew a source? I have researched the Net for hours and all I found was only some very general articles about the foundation, without any specific information. >> Thank you so much for your help. >> Best regards, Andreas >> >> >> Prof. Dr. Andreas Bernard >> Leuphana Universität Lüneburg >> Centre for Digital Cultures >> Am Sande 5 >> 21335 Lüneburg >> >> Tel.: 04131 2192622 >> cdc.leuphana.com <http://cdc.leuphana.com/> <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcdc.leuphan... <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcdc.leuphana.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cstaitia%40si.edu%7C6c7b330b9f4a4f6b8fc008d8b8c8645b%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637462518104034341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Rs4FcpQb%2BTCDR%2FUxLbJEC%2Bc4ySoYW25L8Bu404qb%2BLA%3D&reserved=0>> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org <http://sigcis.org/>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.sigci... <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.sigcis.org%2Fpipermail%2Fmembers-sigcis.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cstaitia%40si.edu%7C6c7b330b9f4a4f6b8fc008d8b8c8645b%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637462518104034341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YBXKKxK0%2FMbp12B2kaxiiRNrYf70pgJvpKlX09ukoLw%3D&reserved=0> and you can change your subscription options at https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.sigci... <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.sigcis.org%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fmembers-sigcis.org&data=04%7C01%7Cstaitia%40si.edu%7C6c7b330b9f4a4f6b8fc008d8b8c8645b%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637462518104034341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=vOVHrlBJCkH7Us7LsfN9EO2aTX9pxqci01XQUOEbhlI%3D&reserved=0> >
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