[SIGCIS-Members] The email saga continues

Evan Koblentz evan at snarc.net
Thu Sep 4 16:37:17 PDT 2014 

I thought we're supposed to have tattoos of the "@" sign on our chests.

Also: LA Times covered the saga:

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-a-discredited-old-yarn-20140904-column.html



On 09/04/2014 06:38 PM, Marc Weber wrote:
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>   The first rule of Mail Cabal is: you do not talk about Mail Cabal.
>   The second rule of Mail Cabal is: you DO NOT talk about Mail Cabal!
>   - with apologies to Chuck Palahniuk
>   Best, Marc
>   p.s. I hope we can agree on the secret official movie – "You've Got
>   Mail."
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> On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Julie Cohn wrote:
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>> And a theme song?
>>
>> *****************************
>> Julie Cohn, Ph.D.
>> Research Historian
>> Center for Public History
>> University of Houston
>> 315 McElhinney Hall
>> Houston, TX 77204-3007
>> cohnconnor at comcast.net <mailto:cohnconnor at comcast.net>
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>> On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Janet Abbate wrote:
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>>> We need a secret cabal handshake. I suggest the SSL protocol.
>>>
>>> Janet
>>>
>>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:45 32PM, Paul N. Edwards wrote:
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>>>> As the silliness level mounts, let me contribute:
>>>>
>>>> I suggest we drive around in cabal cars and lay an undersea cabal 
>>>> for our secret messages. Or we could just kick cabal around…
>>>>
>>>> P
>>>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 13:04 , Thomas Haigh <thaigh at computer.org 
>>>> <mailto:thaigh at computer.org>> wrote:
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>>>>> Hmm. A cabal obviously would focus on secret conspiracy, which is 
>>>>> always
>>>>> hard to pull off on an open and publically archived email list. 
>>>>> But if we
>>>>> threw in some exotic rituals and perhaps a little human sacrifice 
>>>>> then we
>>>>> might still make the grade. I guess we could take some of the 
>>>>> billions BBN
>>>>> is allegedly making by distorting email history and use it to rent 
>>>>> a rather
>>>>> nice subterranean lair and a set of exotic dark costumes to wear while
>>>>> conducting official cabal business.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: members-bounces at sigcis.org 
>>>>> <mailto:members-bounces at sigcis.org> 
>>>>> [mailto:members-bounces at sigcis.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of McMillan, William W
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 11:48 AM
>>>>> To: members
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The email saga continues
>>>>>
>>>>> Let it go, Dag?  Are you kidding?  I might be, at best, an amateur
>>>>> historian, but I do so hope I'm a genuine member of the " Internet 
>>>>> cabal of
>>>>> SIGCIS 'historians' "!
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never been in a cabal before, but I doubt cabal members let 
>>>>> things go.
>>>>> We must do something cabal-ish.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... if we know what that would be.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: members-bounces at sigcis.org 
>>>>> <mailto:members-bounces at sigcis.org> [members-bounces at sigcis.org 
>>>>> <mailto:members-bounces at sigcis.org>] on behalf of
>>>>> Dag Spicer [dspicer at computerhistory.org 
>>>>> <mailto:dspicer at computerhistory.org>]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:30 PM
>>>>> To: members
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The email saga continues
>>>>>
>>>>> If you were to start critiquing items appearing in the HuffPo, you 
>>>>> would
>>>>> have a lifetime of work ahead of you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fortunately for us, their very name reeks of triviality and marginal
>>>>> journalism-even a high school student wouldn't cite them in a paper.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let it go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dag
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dag Spicer
>>>>> Senior Curator
>>>>> Computer History Museum
>>>>> Editorial Board, IEEE Annals of the History of Computing
>>>>> 1401 North Shoreline Boulevard
>>>>> Mountain View, CA 94043-1311
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: +1 650 810 1035
>>>>> Fax: +1 650 810 1055
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: @ComputerHistory
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Evan Koblentz
>>>>> <evan at snarc.net <mailto:evan at snarc.net><mailto:evan at snarc.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> HuffPo is now claiming that everyone else -- they even mention 
>>>>> SIGCIS -- are
>>>>> the ones with the agenda and conspiracy!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deborah-j-nightingale/the-history-of-email-fiv
>>>>> e-myths-about-email_b_5756340.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/03/2014 11:50 AM, Brian Randell wrote:
>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>
>>>>> Techdirt has an article "Why Is Huffington Post Running A 
>>>>> Multi-Part Series
>>>>> To Promote The Lies Of A Guy Who Pretended To Invent Email?"
>>>>>
>>>>> at:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140901/07280928386/huffpo-publishes-biza
>>>>> rre-misleading-factually-incorrect-multi-part-series-pretending-guy-invented
>>>>> -email-even-though-he-didnt.shtml
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian Randell
>>>>>
>>>>> School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon 
>>>>> Tyne, NE1
>>>>> 7RU
>>>>> EMAIL = Brian.Randell at ncl.ac.uk <mailto:Brian.Randell at ncl.ac.uk> 
>>>>>   PHONE = +44 191 222 7923
>>>>> URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell
>>>>>
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>>>> Paul N. Edwards
>>>> Professor of Information and History, University of Michigan
>>>> A Vast Machine: Computer Models, Climate Data, and the Politics of 
>>>> Global Warming (MIT Press, 2010)
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