Good video on history of the Internet?
Hello, SIGCIS. Can you recommend a video on the history of the Internet that is available online? This is for a general education, freshman-level class Foundations of Computer Science. I'd prefer one that is no more than 30 minutes long, or that would still be interesting if only a 30-min segment were viewed. Thanks! Bill
Bill, In my intro to ICT in business I used until recently a 13 minutes video available in YouTUBE called 24 hours in cyberspace, that showcases the emergence of the World Wide Web, A. Ramirez
On Nov 7, 2015, at 11:29 AM, McMillan, William W <william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote:
Hello, SIGCIS.
Can you recommend a video on the history of the Internet that is available online?
This is for a general education, freshman-level class Foundations of Computer Science.
I'd prefer one that is no more than 30 minutes long, or that would still be interesting if only a 30-min segment were viewed.
Thanks!
Bill
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the 24 hours in cyberspace is the translation of what news people view as the internet. I think we did much better in "the network nation" (hiltz and turoff) still available from MIT press via amazon. The essence of the internet is that any set of people who have some common interest they want to share and find one another no matter where they are in the world and form a social group, community, taskforce, or any other collaborative undertaking. The EIES system in 1975 was a social media system and it evolved lots of communication structures that work for different purpose but as yet are still not implemented on the Web because everyone is focusing on what will be the electronic version of the black telephone that everyone used in the early days of the phone network. As a result a lot of possible systems that would better service small cohesive communities do not yet exist. As an example the use of current social media to help out in emergencies has been useful but no where near what could be done if people had access to a system really designed to allow wide scale public use in an emergency. The industry has been focusing on mass market systems which is what happens as part of the commercial process. Unfortunately, the sponsorship of real research in tailored communication system focusing on the nature of a group wanting to communicate and the application that brings them together. While we know a lot about what, for example, voting can do for group, other than the amazon 5 star feedback system none of the current social media systems have put in small group voting process such as is done in Delphi studies (see the Delphi Method Book (from 1975, free on my website) and some of the original research studies from the early EIES system free from the NJIT library http://library.njit.edu/archives/cccc-materials/index.php Most of the original research reports are there and are more complete than most of the published papers from that period. There is also user manuals for EMISARI which was the first collaborative system designed for asynchronous communications in an emergency in 1971 and which operated for the government to run the 1971 wage price freeze and for 15 years of emergency operations after that. The Delphi conference which was designed in 1970 and was the first ever asynchronous group system was used as the software bases for the creation of EMISARI (Emergency Management Information System and Reference Index) Delphi method book at http://is.njit.edu/turoff a lot of the early work on online education is at http://is.njit.edu/hiltz The very first collaborative asynchronous system for dispersed members was published here Turoff, Murray, Delphi Conferencing: Computer Based Conferencing with Anonymity, Technological Forecasting and Social Change, 3, 159-204, 1972. (actually occurred in 1971) On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Alex Ramirez <AlexRamirez@cunet.carleton.ca
wrote:
Bill,
In my intro to ICT in business I used until recently a 13 minutes video available in YouTUBE called 24 hours in cyberspace, that showcases the emergence of the World Wide Web,
A. Ramirez
On Nov 7, 2015, at 11:29 AM, McMillan, William W < william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote:
Hello, SIGCIS.
Can you recommend a video on the history of the Internet that is available online?
This is for a general education, freshman-level class Foundations of Computer Science.
I'd prefer one that is no more than 30 minutes long, or that would still be interesting if only a 30-min segment were viewed.
Thanks!
Bill
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It's not as short as half an hour, it has some inaccuracies, and it's from 17 years ago, but "Nerds 2.0.1 -- Brief History of the Intetnet" was a decent 3-episode lay explanation about the Internet, and parts of it apparently are available free on Youtube (and the whole thing is available for sale on Amazon). Maybe the person who made the original query can pull together something that is useful from the above video from Oregon Public Broadcasting.
Hi Bill, A good introduction to the history of the Internet would consider its roots in counterculture (for reference: Fred Turner’s From Counterculture to Cyberculture) and libertarianism pathos of the 1960s which rejected state control and censorship. The BBC has put together a good television series called The Virtual Revolution that best fits what you said you are looking for and considers these important themes. Here’s another good one—clear and informative. Not to state the obvious, sort your keyword searches by view count and make sure to read the reviews. There’s a reason some videos have 300 views and others have 3,000,000... I think a general, introductory lesson on the Internet would be more interesting and informative for your students if you taught and explored certain concepts central to the digital web experience, like HTTP, TCP/IP, DOM, HTML/CSS. There are accessible, succinct shorts that Harvard’s intro course CS50 has put together for its web development unit, which are freely accessible on YouTube. By understanding ports/addresses/requests and looking under the hood of your browser (Chrome->right click on page->Inspect Element) you can introduce your students to some key that technologies connect users of the internet together. Best, Ned
On Nov 7, 2015, at 11:29 AM, McMillan, William W <william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote:
Hello, SIGCIS.
Can you recommend a video on the history of the Internet that is available online?
This is for a general education, freshman-level class Foundations of Computer Science.
I'd prefer one that is no more than 30 minutes long, or that would still be interesting if only a 30-min segment were viewed.
Thanks!
Bill
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When I finish the HTML component of an intro Web programming class I show this 10 minute interview with Robert Cailliau (Tim Berners Lee's colleague) in his CERN offices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2GylLq59rI The video is conducted by Chuck Severance (among other things former E.D. of the open source Sakai LMS project) and includes footage of Cailliau gesturing at the Unix server that hosted the original WWW with a sticker that says "This machine is a server do not power down!," an animated debate between Severance and Callliau about the merits and demerits of HTML, and Cailliau finally declaring that HTML had "spread like a virus beyond repair" (my paraphrase). I use the video to spark a discussion that broaches (among other things) the following questions: 1. Robert Caillau video “Does the origin and history of the development of the internet have any impact on your experience of the internet as a developer and as an end-user? If so, how? 1. Was the original WWW envisioned as a community of producers and consumers? What happened to that vision? 2. Are we still dealing with any relics from the early Web? 3. Were the origins of the Web humble? What in the video suggests that they were? What is the significance of CERN? What role did CERN play in the development of the WWW? 4. Does the best technology float to the top? Why didn’t TBLee’s browser become successfull? 5. Have we come full circle? Has TBLee's vision for the Web been realized? 6. Why does Cailliau describe HTML as something that spread like a virus? Hope this helps, Luke Fernandez lfernandez.org On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Edwin L. Whitman <edwinlwhitman@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Bill,
A good introduction to the history of the Internet would consider its roots in counterculture (for reference: Fred Turner’s From Counterculture to Cyberculture) and libertarianism pathos of the 1960s which rejected state control and censorship. The BBC has put together a good television series called The Virtual Revolution that best fits what you said you are looking for and considers these important themes. Here’s another good one—clear and informative.
Not to state the obvious, sort your keyword searches by view count and make sure to read the reviews. There’s a reason some videos have 300 views and others have 3,000,000...
I think a general, introductory lesson on the Internet would be more interesting and informative for your students if you taught and explored certain concepts central to the digital web experience, like HTTP, TCP/IP, DOM, HTML/CSS. There are accessible, succinct shorts that Harvard’s intro course CS50 has put together for its web development unit, which are freely accessible on YouTube. By understanding ports/addresses/requests and looking under the hood of your browser (Chrome->right click on page->Inspect Element) you can introduce your students to some key that technologies connect users of the internet together.
Best,
Ned
On Nov 7, 2015, at 11:29 AM, McMillan, William W < william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote:
Hello, SIGCIS.
Can you recommend a video on the history of the Internet that is available online?
This is for a general education, freshman-level class Foundations of Computer Science.
I'd prefer one that is no more than 30 minutes long, or that would still be interesting if only a 30-min segment were viewed.
Thanks!
Bill
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This reminds me that I have, buried deep somewhere, a Vint 'Past, Present & Future' presentation at NYU in 1999. He did a pretty good job as I recall. I'll have a look for it. j On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Luke Fernandez <luke.fernandez@gmail.com> wrote:
When I finish the HTML component of an intro Web programming class I show this 10 minute interview with Robert Cailliau (Tim Berners Lee's colleague) in his CERN offices:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2GylLq59rI
The video is conducted by Chuck Severance (among other things former E.D. of the open source Sakai LMS project) and includes footage of Cailliau gesturing at the Unix server that hosted the original WWW with a sticker that says "This machine is a server do not power down!," an animated debate between Severance and Callliau about the merits and demerits of HTML, and Cailliau finally declaring that HTML had "spread like a virus beyond repair" (my paraphrase). I use the video to spark a discussion that broaches (among other things) the following questions:
1.
Robert Caillau video “Does the origin and history of the development of the internet have any impact on your experience of the internet as a developer and as an end-user? If so, how? 1.
Was the original WWW envisioned as a community of producers and consumers? What happened to that vision? 2.
Are we still dealing with any relics from the early Web? 3.
Were the origins of the Web humble? What in the video suggests that they were? What is the significance of CERN? What role did CERN play in the development of the WWW? 4.
Does the best technology float to the top? Why didn’t TBLee’s browser become successfull? 5.
Have we come full circle? Has TBLee's vision for the Web been realized? 6.
Why does Cailliau describe HTML as something that spread like a virus?
Hope this helps,
Luke Fernandez lfernandez.org
On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Edwin L. Whitman <edwinlwhitman@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Bill,
A good introduction to the history of the Internet would consider its roots in counterculture (for reference: Fred Turner’s From Counterculture to Cyberculture) and libertarianism pathos of the 1960s which rejected state control and censorship. The BBC has put together a good television series called The Virtual Revolution that best fits what you said you are looking for and considers these important themes. Here’s another good one—clear and informative.
Not to state the obvious, sort your keyword searches by view count and make sure to read the reviews. There’s a reason some videos have 300 views and others have 3,000,000...
I think a general, introductory lesson on the Internet would be more interesting and informative for your students if you taught and explored certain concepts central to the digital web experience, like HTTP, TCP/IP, DOM, HTML/CSS. There are accessible, succinct shorts that Harvard’s intro course CS50 has put together for its web development unit, which are freely accessible on YouTube. By understanding ports/addresses/requests and looking under the hood of your browser (Chrome->right click on page->Inspect Element) you can introduce your students to some key that technologies connect users of the internet together.
Best,
Ned
On Nov 7, 2015, at 11:29 AM, McMillan, William W < william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote:
Hello, SIGCIS.
Can you recommend a video on the history of the Internet that is available online?
This is for a general education, freshman-level class Foundations of Computer Science.
I'd prefer one that is no more than 30 minutes long, or that would still be interesting if only a 30-min segment were viewed.
Thanks!
Bill
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At the Computer History Museum we created some short videos for the Networking and the Web gallery in our permanent exhibition “Revolution: The First 2000 Years of Computing.” These focus on the Web and hypertext but the internet itself is there as background. (The history of the internet itself is covered in the online exhibit <http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/networking/19/375> but there is not a movie about it per se). Here are the links: - "Birth of the World Wide Web," http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/the-web/20/385/2221 <http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/the-web/20/385/2221> - "Navigating Knowledge: Hypertext Pioneers," http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/the-web/20/373/2210 <http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/the-web/20/373/2210> - "Dot Com Boom and Bust," http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/the-web/20/394/2222 <http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/the-web/20/394/2222> Best, Marc Marc Weber <http://www.computerhistory.org/staff/Marc,Weber/> | marc@webhistory.org | +1 415 282 6868 Internet History Program Curatorial Director, Computer History Museum 1401 N Shoreline Blvd., Mountain View CA 94043 computerhistory.org/nethistory <http://computerhistory.org/nethistory> Co-founder, Web History Center and Project, webhistory.org
On Nov 8, 2015, at 09:17, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> wrote:
This reminds me that I have, buried deep somewhere, a Vint 'Past, Present & Future' presentation at NYU in 1999. He did a pretty good job as I recall.
I'll have a look for it.
j
On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Luke Fernandez <luke.fernandez@gmail.com <mailto:luke.fernandez@gmail.com>> wrote: When I finish the HTML component of an intro Web programming class I show this 10 minute interview with Robert Cailliau (Tim Berners Lee's colleague) in his CERN offices:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2GylLq59rI <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2GylLq59rI>
The video is conducted by Chuck Severance (among other things former E.D. of the open source Sakai LMS project) and includes footage of Cailliau gesturing at the Unix server that hosted the original WWW with a sticker that says "This machine is a server do not power down!," an animated debate between Severance and Callliau about the merits and demerits of HTML, and Cailliau finally declaring that HTML had "spread like a virus beyond repair" (my paraphrase). I use the video to spark a discussion that broaches (among other things) the following questions:
Robert Caillau video “Does the origin and history of the development of the internet have any impact on your experience of the internet as a developer and as an end-user? If so, how? Was the original WWW envisioned as a community of producers and consumers? What happened to that vision? Are we still dealing with any relics from the early Web? Were the origins of the Web humble? What in the video suggests that they were? What is the significance of CERN? What role did CERN play in the development of the WWW? Does the best technology float to the top? Why didn’t TBLee’s browser become successfull? Have we come full circle? Has TBLee's vision for the Web been realized? Why does Cailliau describe HTML as something that spread like a virus?
Hope this helps,
Luke Fernandez lfernandez.org <http://lfernandez.org/>
On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Edwin L. Whitman <edwinlwhitman@gmail.com <mailto:edwinlwhitman@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Bill,
A good introduction to the history of the Internet would consider its roots in counterculture (for reference: Fred Turner’s From Counterculture to Cyberculture) and libertarianism pathos of the 1960s which rejected state control and censorship. The BBC has put together a good television series called The Virtual Revolution that best fits what you said you are looking for and considers these important themes. Here’s another good one—clear and informative.
Not to state the obvious, sort your keyword searches by view count and make sure to read the reviews. There’s a reason some videos have 300 views and others have 3,000,000...
I think a general, introductory lesson on the Internet would be more interesting and informative for your students if you taught and explored certain concepts central to the digital web experience, like HTTP, TCP/IP, DOM, HTML/CSS. There are accessible, succinct shorts that Harvard’s intro course CS50 has put together for its web development unit, which are freely accessible on YouTube. By understanding ports/addresses/requests and looking under the hood of your browser (Chrome->right click on page->Inspect Element) you can introduce your students to some key that technologies connect users of the internet together.
Best,
Ned
On Nov 7, 2015, at 11:29 AM, McMillan, William W <william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu <mailto:william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu>> wrote:
Hello, SIGCIS.
Can you recommend a video on the history of the Internet that is available online?
This is for a general education, freshman-level class Foundations of Computer Science.
I'd prefer one that is no more than 30 minutes long, or that would still be interesting if only a 30-min segment were viewed.
Thanks!
Bill
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Thanks much for the suggestions, Alex, Debbie, Ned, Luke, and Marc! Many good sources to choose from. Bill ________________________________________ From: Members [members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] on behalf of McMillan, William W [william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu] Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 11:29 AM To: members@lists.sigcis.org Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Good video on history of the Internet? Hello, SIGCIS. Can you recommend a video on the history of the Internet that is available online? This is for a general education, freshman-level class Foundations of Computer Science. I'd prefer one that is no more than 30 minutes long, or that would still be interesting if only a 30-min segment were viewed. Thanks! Bill _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
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