Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
NY's Metropolitan Transit Authority -- the people who runs the subways, trains, and buses -- hired a tour guide for Grand Central Station who's saying that the terminal's circa-1913 electromechanical signaling system is "the first electronic computer". Who was the chief engineer, Shiva Ayyadurai? This story is very unfortunately in Gothamist -- a very popular NYC site. I shudder to think how many people now accept it as fact. http://gothamist.com/2015/10/15/grand_central_computer_video.php#photo-7
Evan, you just need to understand geography a little better: http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New... - Bill ________________________________________ From: Members [members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] on behalf of Evan Koblentz [evan@snarc.net] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:26 PM To: Sigcis Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim NY's Metropolitan Transit Authority -- the people who runs the subways, trains, and buses -- hired a tour guide for Grand Central Station who's saying that the terminal's circa-1913 electromechanical signaling system is "the first electronic computer". Who was the chief engineer, Shiva Ayyadurai? This story is very unfortunately in Gothamist -- a very popular NYC site. I shudder to think how many people now accept it as fact. http://gothamist.com/2015/10/15/grand_central_computer_video.php#photo-7 _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
Evan, you just need to understand geography a little better:
http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New...
Nice ... I'm from NJ so I am all too familiar with that attitude. People attend my organization's annual Vintage Computer East from four continents. When I tell New Yorkers about the event, they say, "Jersey? Oh, nevermind." As if I'd said we are in < your favorite far-off place goes here >. World Maker Faire is in Queens. Told me cousin to bring her husband because he's an engineer and would love it. They live in Brooklyn. She said it's too much hassle.
Someone ought to do an updated version of the famous Steinberg New Yorker cartoon Bill linked to, representing today's tech industry and centered on Silicon Valley. As Nathan Ensmenger's keynote at the SIGCIS workshop last weekend pointed out, that's an industry aggressively rewriting its past and seeking to pivot the rest of the world's concerns -- economic, policy, social -- around its mobile, app-based worldview. The tech view from Palo Alto circa the 2010s is not that dissimilar to the media industry's view from New York in the 1970s. --AMM -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Andrew Meade McGee Corcoran Department of History University of Virginia PO Box 400180 - Nau Hall Charlottesville, VA 22904 On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:28 PM, McMillan, William W < william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote:
Evan, you just need to understand geography a little better:
http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New...
- Bill
________________________________________ From: Members [members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] on behalf of Evan Koblentz [evan@snarc.net] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:26 PM To: Sigcis Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
NY's Metropolitan Transit Authority -- the people who runs the subways, trains, and buses -- hired a tour guide for Grand Central Station who's saying that the terminal's circa-1913 electromechanical signaling system is "the first electronic computer".
Who was the chief engineer, Shiva Ayyadurai?
This story is very unfortunately in Gothamist -- a very popular NYC site. I shudder to think how many people now accept it as fact.
http://gothamist.com/2015/10/15/grand_central_computer_video.php#photo-7 _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
I was actually just looking for one without success… I swear someone did a version a decade or two ago. Best, Marc
On Oct 16, 2015, at 13:46, Andrew Meade McGee <amm5ae@virginia.edu> wrote:
Someone ought to do an updated version of the famous Steinberg New Yorker cartoon Bill linked to, representing today's tech industry and centered on Silicon Valley.
As Nathan Ensmenger's keynote at the SIGCIS workshop last weekend pointed out, that's an industry aggressively rewriting its past and seeking to pivot the rest of the world's concerns -- economic, policy, social -- around its mobile, app-based worldview. The tech view from Palo Alto circa the 2010s is not that dissimilar to the media industry's view from New York in the 1970s.
--AMM
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Andrew Meade McGee Corcoran Department of History University of Virginia PO Box 400180 - Nau Hall Charlottesville, VA 22904
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:28 PM, McMillan, William W <william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu <mailto:william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu>> wrote: Evan, you just need to understand geography a little better:
http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New... <http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New-Yorker-1976.jpg>
- Bill
________________________________________ From: Members [members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org <mailto:members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org>] on behalf of Evan Koblentz [evan@snarc.net <mailto:evan@snarc.net>] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:26 PM To: Sigcis Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
NY's Metropolitan Transit Authority -- the people who runs the subways, trains, and buses -- hired a tour guide for Grand Central Station who's saying that the terminal's circa-1913 electromechanical signaling system is "the first electronic computer".
Who was the chief engineer, Shiva Ayyadurai?
This story is very unfortunately in Gothamist -- a very popular NYC site. I shudder to think how many people now accept it as fact.
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The Stanford Bookstore sold a poster along these lines when I was a grad student in the 1980s. My recollections are that the legend was “Stanford: A View of the World”, and that Silicon Valley was one of the small foreground features at the right edge. That would be a much larger feature if drawn today, and Sand Hill Road would now appear on the left margin. (A quick search for an image doesn’t turn it up—probably because of copyright issues. I did find links to an artist selling something with a similar idea, but definitely not the poster I recall.) Cary Gray
On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Andrew Meade McGee <amm5ae@virginia.edu> wrote:
Someone ought to do an updated version of the famous Steinberg New Yorker cartoon Bill linked to, representing today's tech industry and centered on Silicon Valley.
As Nathan Ensmenger's keynote at the SIGCIS workshop last weekend pointed out, that's an industry aggressively rewriting its past and seeking to pivot the rest of the world's concerns -- economic, policy, social -- around its mobile, app-based worldview. The tech view from Palo Alto circa the 2010s is not that dissimilar to the media industry's view from New York in the 1970s.
--AMM
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Andrew Meade McGee Corcoran Department of History University of Virginia PO Box 400180 - Nau Hall Charlottesville, VA 22904
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:28 PM, McMillan, William W <william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote: Evan, you just need to understand geography a little better:
http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New...
- Bill
________________________________________ From: Members [members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] on behalf of Evan Koblentz [evan@snarc.net] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:26 PM To: Sigcis Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
NY's Metropolitan Transit Authority -- the people who runs the subways, trains, and buses -- hired a tour guide for Grand Central Station who's saying that the terminal's circa-1913 electromechanical signaling system is "the first electronic computer".
Who was the chief engineer, Shiva Ayyadurai?
This story is very unfortunately in Gothamist -- a very popular NYC site. I shudder to think how many people now accept it as fact.
http://gothamist.com/2015/10/15/grand_central_computer_video.php#photo-7 _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
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Andrew, This might be the type of image that you are looking for. The artist Kirby Scudder did an overview of Palo Alto using Steinberg's style in 2014. Blog post on the illustration. <http://kirbyscudder.com/illustration/posters/palo-alto/> The poster itself (not sure if there is a higher resolution out there) <https://kirbyscudder.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/smallposter.jpg>. Best, Trevor On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cary Gray <cary.gray@wheaton.edu> wrote:
The Stanford Bookstore sold a poster along these lines when I was a grad student in the 1980s. My recollections are that the legend was “Stanford: A View of the World”, and that Silicon Valley was one of the small foreground features at the right edge. That would be a much larger feature if drawn today, and Sand Hill Road would now appear on the left margin.
(A quick search for an image doesn’t turn it up—probably because of copyright issues. I did find links to an artist selling something with a similar idea, but definitely not the poster I recall.)
Cary Gray
On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Andrew Meade McGee <amm5ae@virginia.edu> wrote:
Someone ought to do an updated version of the famous Steinberg New Yorker cartoon Bill linked to, representing today's tech industry and centered on Silicon Valley.
As Nathan Ensmenger's keynote at the SIGCIS workshop last weekend pointed out, that's an industry aggressively rewriting its past and seeking to pivot the rest of the world's concerns -- economic, policy, social -- around its mobile, app-based worldview. The tech view from Palo Alto circa the 2010s is not that dissimilar to the media industry's view from New York in the 1970s.
--AMM
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Andrew Meade McGee Corcoran Department of History University of Virginia PO Box 400180 - Nau Hall Charlottesville, VA 22904
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:28 PM, McMillan, William W < william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote: Evan, you just need to understand geography a little better:
http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New...
- Bill
________________________________________ From: Members [members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] on behalf of Evan
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:26 PM To: Sigcis Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
NY's Metropolitan Transit Authority -- the people who runs the subways, trains, and buses -- hired a tour guide for Grand Central Station who's saying that the terminal's circa-1913 electromechanical signaling system is "the first electronic computer".
Who was the chief engineer, Shiva Ayyadurai?
This story is very unfortunately in Gothamist -- a very popular NYC site. I shudder to think how many people now accept it as fact.
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This is indeed the type we're seeking. This one is "new" as you say, 2014, example is Tesla's building between HP and XeroxPARC There were indeed some of these from 1980s; wish I had one now From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Trevor Croker <tcroker@vt.edu> Date: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:38 AM To: Cary Gray <cary.gray@wheaton.edu> Cc: "members@lists.sigcis.org" <members@lists.sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim Andrew, This might be the type of image that you are looking for. The artist Kirby Scudder did an overview of Palo Alto using Steinberg's style in 2014. Blog post on the illustration. <http://kirbyscudder.com/illustration/posters/palo-alto/> The poster itself (not sure if there is a higher resolution out there) <https://kirbyscudder.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/smallposter.jpg> . Best, Trevor On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cary Gray <cary.gray@wheaton.edu> wrote:
The Stanford Bookstore sold a poster along these lines when I was a grad student in the 1980s. My recollections are that the legend was ³Stanford: A View of the World², and that Silicon Valley was one of the small foreground features at the right edge. That would be a much larger feature if drawn today, and Sand Hill Road would now appear on the left margin.
(A quick search for an image doesn¹t turn it upprobably because of copyright issues. I did find links to an artist selling something with a similar idea, but definitely not the poster I recall.)
Cary Gray
On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Andrew Meade McGee <amm5ae@virginia.edu> wrote:
Someone ought to do an updated version of the famous Steinberg New Yorker cartoon Bill linked to, representing today's tech industry and centered on Silicon Valley.
As Nathan Ensmenger's keynote at the SIGCIS workshop last weekend pointed out, that's an industry aggressively rewriting its past and seeking to pivot the rest of the world's concerns -- economic, policy, social -- around its mobile, app-based worldview. The tech view from Palo Alto circa the 2010s is not that dissimilar to the media industry's view from New York in the 1970s.
--AMM
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Andrew Meade McGee Corcoran Department of History University of Virginia PO Box 400180 - Nau Hall Charlottesville, VA 22904
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:28 PM, McMillan, William W <william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote: Evan, you just need to understand geography a little better:
http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New... Yorker-1976.jpg
- Bill
________________________________________ From: Members [members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] on behalf of Evan Koblentz
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:26 PM To: Sigcis Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
NY's Metropolitan Transit Authority -- the people who runs the subways, trains, and buses -- hired a tour guide for Grand Central Station who's saying that the terminal's circa-1913 electromechanical signaling system is "the first electronic computer".
Who was the chief engineer, Shiva Ayyadurai?
This story is very unfortunately in Gothamist -- a very popular NYC site. I shudder to think how many people now accept it as fact.
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If I can add a nod to my own book (Artifacts: an Archaeologist's Year in Silicon Valley, MIT Press 2001/2) in the preface I describe it as "a particular part of the world that has no map co-ordinate, common language or culture, but a commonality in being a motherlode of technological innovation unlike anywhere else on earth...". Christine On 19 October 2015 at 18:47, Chuck House <housec1839@gmail.com> wrote:
This is indeed the type we're seeking. This one is "new" as you say, 2014, example is Tesla's building between HP and XeroxPARC There were indeed some of these from 1980s; wish I had one now
From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Trevor Croker <tcroker@vt.edu> Date: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:38 AM To: Cary Gray <cary.gray@wheaton.edu> Cc: "members@lists.sigcis.org" <members@lists.sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
Andrew,
This might be the type of image that you are looking for. The artist Kirby Scudder did an overview of Palo Alto using Steinberg's style in 2014.
Blog post on the illustration. <http://kirbyscudder.com/illustration/posters/palo-alto/>
The poster itself (not sure if there is a higher resolution out there) <https://kirbyscudder.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/smallposter.jpg>.
Best, Trevor
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cary Gray <cary.gray@wheaton.edu> wrote:
The Stanford Bookstore sold a poster along these lines when I was a grad student in the 1980s. My recollections are that the legend was “Stanford: A View of the World”, and that Silicon Valley was one of the small foreground features at the right edge. That would be a much larger feature if drawn today, and Sand Hill Road would now appear on the left margin.
(A quick search for an image doesn’t turn it up—probably because of copyright issues. I did find links to an artist selling something with a similar idea, but definitely not the poster I recall.)
Cary Gray
On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Andrew Meade McGee <amm5ae@virginia.edu> wrote:
Someone ought to do an updated version of the famous Steinberg New Yorker cartoon Bill linked to, representing today's tech industry and centered on Silicon Valley.
As Nathan Ensmenger's keynote at the SIGCIS workshop last weekend pointed out, that's an industry aggressively rewriting its past and seeking to pivot the rest of the world's concerns -- economic, policy, social -- around its mobile, app-based worldview. The tech view from Palo Alto circa the 2010s is not that dissimilar to the media industry's view from New York in the 1970s.
--AMM
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Andrew Meade McGee Corcoran Department of History University of Virginia PO Box 400180 - Nau Hall Charlottesville, VA 22904
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:28 PM, McMillan, William W < william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote: Evan, you just need to understand geography a little better:
http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New...
- Bill
________________________________________ From: Members [members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] on behalf of Evan
Koblentz [evan@snarc.net]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:26 PM To: Sigcis Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
NY's Metropolitan Transit Authority -- the people who runs the subways, trains, and buses -- hired a tour guide for Grand Central Station who's saying that the terminal's circa-1913 electromechanical signaling system is "the first electronic computer".
Who was the chief engineer, Shiva Ayyadurai?
This story is very unfortunately in Gothamist -- a very popular NYC site. I shudder to think how many people now accept it as fact.
_______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion
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I’m rather enjoying the version of Silicon Valley as seen in the screenshots here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/vson_visionx/13967749493 --- S a r a h T. R o b e r t s, P h. D. Assistant Professor Faculty of Information and Media Studies (FIMS) Western University http://fims.uwo.ca/index.htm Blogging periodically at http://illusionofvolition.com
On Oct 19, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Chuck House <housec1839@gmail.com> wrote:
This is indeed the type we're seeking. This one is "new" as you say, 2014, example is Tesla's building between HP and XeroxPARC There were indeed some of these from 1980s; wish I had one now
From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Trevor Croker <tcroker@vt.edu> Date: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:38 AM To: Cary Gray <cary.gray@wheaton.edu> Cc: "members@lists.sigcis.org" <members@lists.sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
Andrew,
This might be the type of image that you are looking for. The artist Kirby Scudder did an overview of Palo Alto using Steinberg's style in 2014.
Blog post on the illustration.
The poster itself (not sure if there is a higher resolution out there).
Best, Trevor
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cary Gray <cary.gray@wheaton.edu> wrote:
The Stanford Bookstore sold a poster along these lines when I was a grad student in the 1980s. My recollections are that the legend was “Stanford: A View of the World”, and that Silicon Valley was one of the small foreground features at the right edge. That would be a much larger feature if drawn today, and Sand Hill Road would now appear on the left margin.
(A quick search for an image doesn’t turn it up—probably because of copyright issues. I did find links to an artist selling something with a similar idea, but definitely not the poster I recall.)
Cary Gray
On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Andrew Meade McGee <amm5ae@virginia.edu> wrote:
Someone ought to do an updated version of the famous Steinberg New Yorker cartoon Bill linked to, representing today's tech industry and centered on Silicon Valley.
As Nathan Ensmenger's keynote at the SIGCIS workshop last weekend pointed out, that's an industry aggressively rewriting its past and seeking to pivot the rest of the world's concerns -- economic, policy, social -- around its mobile, app-based worldview. The tech view from Palo Alto circa the 2010s is not that dissimilar to the media industry's view from New York in the 1970s.
--AMM
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Andrew Meade McGee Corcoran Department of History University of Virginia PO Box 400180 - Nau Hall Charlottesville, VA 22904
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:28 PM, McMillan, William W <william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote: Evan, you just need to understand geography a little better:
http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New...
- Bill
________________________________________ From: Members [members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] on behalf of Evan Koblentz [evan@snarc.net] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:26 PM To: Sigcis Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
NY's Metropolitan Transit Authority -- the people who runs the subways, trains, and buses -- hired a tour guide for Grand Central Station who's saying that the terminal's circa-1913 electromechanical signaling system is "the first electronic computer".
Who was the chief engineer, Shiva Ayyadurai?
This story is very unfortunately in Gothamist -- a very popular NYC site. I shudder to think how many people now accept it as fact.
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Thanks, Trevor. I notice the Computer History Museum gets a shout-out on the artist's blog, though I couldn't locate it on the map. A realistic portrayal of Silicon Valley should have 100x more traffic. Janet On Oct 19, 2015, at 1:38 53PM, Trevor Croker wrote:
Andrew,
This might be the type of image that you are looking for. The artist Kirby Scudder did an overview of Palo Alto using Steinberg's style in 2014.
Blog post on the illustration.
The poster itself (not sure if there is a higher resolution out there).
Best, Trevor
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cary Gray <cary.gray@wheaton.edu> wrote: The Stanford Bookstore sold a poster along these lines when I was a grad student in the 1980s. My recollections are that the legend was “Stanford: A View of the World”, and that Silicon Valley was one of the small foreground features at the right edge. That would be a much larger feature if drawn today, and Sand Hill Road would now appear on the left margin.
(A quick search for an image doesn’t turn it up—probably because of copyright issues. I did find links to an artist selling something with a similar idea, but definitely not the poster I recall.)
Cary Gray
On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Andrew Meade McGee <amm5ae@virginia.edu> wrote:
Someone ought to do an updated version of the famous Steinberg New Yorker cartoon Bill linked to, representing today's tech industry and centered on Silicon Valley.
As Nathan Ensmenger's keynote at the SIGCIS workshop last weekend pointed out, that's an industry aggressively rewriting its past and seeking to pivot the rest of the world's concerns -- economic, policy, social -- around its mobile, app-based worldview. The tech view from Palo Alto circa the 2010s is not that dissimilar to the media industry's view from New York in the 1970s.
--AMM
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Andrew Meade McGee Corcoran Department of History University of Virginia PO Box 400180 - Nau Hall Charlottesville, VA 22904
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:28 PM, McMillan, William W <william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote: Evan, you just need to understand geography a little better:
http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New...
- Bill
________________________________________ From: Members [members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] on behalf of Evan Koblentz [evan@snarc.net] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:26 PM To: Sigcis Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
NY's Metropolitan Transit Authority -- the people who runs the subways, trains, and buses -- hired a tour guide for Grand Central Station who's saying that the terminal's circa-1913 electromechanical signaling system is "the first electronic computer".
Who was the chief engineer, Shiva Ayyadurai?
This story is very unfortunately in Gothamist -- a very popular NYC site. I shudder to think how many people now accept it as fact.
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I don’t see it either, but it gets pretty fuzzy at that zoom – the Computer History Museum should appear next to Google and LinkedIn, near Shoreline Amphitheater and Moffett Field. Next version. IMHO Market St. and SOMA in San Francisco should also get some callouts… perhaps the Twitterplex towering over the homeless masses. Best, Marc
On Oct 19, 2015, at 11:14, Janet Abbate <abbate@vt.edu> wrote:
Thanks, Trevor. I notice the Computer History Museum gets a shout-out on the artist's blog, though I couldn't locate it on the map.
A realistic portrayal of Silicon Valley should have 100x more traffic.
Janet
On Oct 19, 2015, at 1:38 53PM, Trevor Croker wrote:
Andrew,
This might be the type of image that you are looking for. The artist Kirby Scudder did an overview of Palo Alto using Steinberg's style in 2014.
Blog post on the illustration.
The poster itself (not sure if there is a higher resolution out there).
Best, Trevor
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cary Gray <cary.gray@wheaton.edu> wrote: The Stanford Bookstore sold a poster along these lines when I was a grad student in the 1980s. My recollections are that the legend was “Stanford: A View of the World”, and that Silicon Valley was one of the small foreground features at the right edge. That would be a much larger feature if drawn today, and Sand Hill Road would now appear on the left margin.
(A quick search for an image doesn’t turn it up—probably because of copyright issues. I did find links to an artist selling something with a similar idea, but definitely not the poster I recall.)
Cary Gray
On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Andrew Meade McGee <amm5ae@virginia.edu> wrote:
Someone ought to do an updated version of the famous Steinberg New Yorker cartoon Bill linked to, representing today's tech industry and centered on Silicon Valley.
As Nathan Ensmenger's keynote at the SIGCIS workshop last weekend pointed out, that's an industry aggressively rewriting its past and seeking to pivot the rest of the world's concerns -- economic, policy, social -- around its mobile, app-based worldview. The tech view from Palo Alto circa the 2010s is not that dissimilar to the media industry's view from New York in the 1970s.
--AMM
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Andrew Meade McGee Corcoran Department of History University of Virginia PO Box 400180 - Nau Hall Charlottesville, VA 22904
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:28 PM, McMillan, William W <william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote: Evan, you just need to understand geography a little better:
http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New...
- Bill
________________________________________ From: Members [members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] on behalf of Evan Koblentz [evan@snarc.net] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:26 PM To: Sigcis Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
NY's Metropolitan Transit Authority -- the people who runs the subways, trains, and buses -- hired a tour guide for Grand Central Station who's saying that the terminal's circa-1913 electromechanical signaling system is "the first electronic computer".
Who was the chief engineer, Shiva Ayyadurai?
This story is very unfortunately in Gothamist -- a very popular NYC site. I shudder to think how many people now accept it as fact.
http://gothamist.com/2015/10/15/grand_central_computer_video.php#photo-7 _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
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Most interesting. Thank you for sharing, Trevor. I note that Silicon Valley is explicitly depicted as a place -- a collection of people and interactions -- while the other locales on the horizon -- MIT, the NYSE, Washington -- are portrayed as single-building institutions. --AMM -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Andrew Meade McGee Corcoran Department of History University of Virginia PO Box 400180 - Nau Hall Charlottesville, VA 22904 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Trevor Croker <tcroker@vt.edu> wrote:
Andrew,
This might be the type of image that you are looking for. The artist Kirby Scudder did an overview of Palo Alto using Steinberg's style in 2014.
Blog post on the illustration. <http://kirbyscudder.com/illustration/posters/palo-alto/>
The poster itself (not sure if there is a higher resolution out there) <https://kirbyscudder.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/smallposter.jpg>.
Best, Trevor
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cary Gray <cary.gray@wheaton.edu> wrote:
The Stanford Bookstore sold a poster along these lines when I was a grad student in the 1980s. My recollections are that the legend was “Stanford: A View of the World”, and that Silicon Valley was one of the small foreground features at the right edge. That would be a much larger feature if drawn today, and Sand Hill Road would now appear on the left margin.
(A quick search for an image doesn’t turn it up—probably because of copyright issues. I did find links to an artist selling something with a similar idea, but definitely not the poster I recall.)
Cary Gray
On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Andrew Meade McGee <amm5ae@virginia.edu> wrote:
Someone ought to do an updated version of the famous Steinberg New Yorker cartoon Bill linked to, representing today's tech industry and centered on Silicon Valley.
As Nathan Ensmenger's keynote at the SIGCIS workshop last weekend pointed out, that's an industry aggressively rewriting its past and seeking to pivot the rest of the world's concerns -- economic, policy, social -- around its mobile, app-based worldview. The tech view from Palo Alto circa the 2010s is not that dissimilar to the media industry's view from New York in the 1970s.
--AMM
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Andrew Meade McGee Corcoran Department of History University of Virginia PO Box 400180 - Nau Hall Charlottesville, VA 22904
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:28 PM, McMillan, William W < william.mcmillan@cuaa.edu> wrote: Evan, you just need to understand geography a little better:
http://www.mappingthenation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Rumsey-Steinberg-New...
- Bill
________________________________________ From: Members [members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] on behalf of Evan
Koblentz [evan@snarc.net]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:26 PM To: Sigcis Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim
NY's Metropolitan Transit Authority -- the people who runs the subways, trains, and buses -- hired a tour guide for Grand Central Station who's saying that the terminal's circa-1913 electromechanical signaling system is "the first electronic computer".
Who was the chief engineer, Shiva Ayyadurai?
This story is very unfortunately in Gothamist -- a very popular NYC site. I shudder to think how many people now accept it as fact.
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Not sure if this image will go through to the Listserv, but it was one of the inspirations for my book on Tysons Corner, Virginia. Tysons Corner of course is one of the places that aspires to be the “next” Silicon Valley, but it falls short in a number of ways. [2_3__emergency_communications] Paul Ceruzzi ceruzzip@si.edu<mailto:ceruzzip@si.edu> 202-633-2414 From: Members [mailto:members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] On Behalf Of Trevor Croker Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 1:39 PM To: Cary Gray Cc: members@lists.sigcis.org Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Oy! Another crazy computer history claim Andrew, This might be the type of image that you are looking for. The artist Kirby Scudder did an overview of Palo Alto using Steinberg's style in 2014. Blog post on the illustration.<http://kirbyscudder.com/illustration/posters/palo-alto/> The poster itself (not sure if there is a higher resolution out there)<https://kirbyscudder.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/smallposter.jpg>.
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