Nice call on the song, Paul. We might add this classic as something to belt out at our secretive, world-shaping meetings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD3FN0Ah4RE To go along with Janet's proposed secret handshake, perhaps a hidden signal known only to the computer historians of the mail cabal: a double-click on nose? As for Tom's Haigh's excellent notion of a secret lair, could CBI or the Computer History Museum swing a National Science Foundation grant for a volcano base or a castle in Switzerland? Or, daresay, a .bat cave? --AMM -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Andrew Meade McGee Corcoran Department of History University of Virginia PO Box 400180 - Nau Hall Charlottesville, VA 22904 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Ceruzzi, Paul <CeruzziP@si.edu> wrote:

Here's the theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RUjnqH3kMw

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The first rule of Mail Cabal is: you do not talk about Mail Cabal. The second rule of Mail Cabal is: you DO NOT talk about Mail Cabal! - with apologies to Chuck Palahniuk Best, Marc p.s. I hope we can agree on the secret official movie – "You've Got Mail."

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On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Julie Cohn wrote:

And a theme song?

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On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Janet Abbate wrote:

We need a secret cabal handshake. I suggest the SSL protocol.

Janet

On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:45 32PM, Paul N. Edwards wrote:

As the silliness level mounts, let me contribute:

I suggest we drive around in cabal cars and lay an undersea cabal for our secret messages. Or we could just kick cabal around…

P

On Sep 3, 2014, at 13:04 , Thomas Haigh <thaigh@computer.org> wrote:

Hmm. A cabal obviously would focus on secret conspiracy, which is always

hard to pull off on an open and publically archived email list. But if we

threw in some exotic rituals and perhaps a little human sacrifice then we

might still make the grade. I guess we could take some of the billions BBN

is allegedly making by distorting email history and use it to rent a rather

nice subterranean lair and a set of exotic dark costumes to wear while

conducting official cabal business.

Tom

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Let it go, Dag? Are you kidding? I might be, at best, an amateur

historian, but I do so hope I'm a genuine member of the " Internet cabal of

SIGCIS 'historians' "!

I've never been in a cabal before, but I doubt cabal members let things go.

We must do something cabal-ish.

... if we know what that would be.

Bill

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Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The email saga continues

If you were to start critiquing items appearing in the HuffPo, you would

have a lifetime of work ahead of you.

Fortunately for us, their very name reeks of triviality and marginal

journalism-even a high school student wouldn't cite them in a paper.

Let it go.

Dag

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On Sep 3, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Evan Koblentz

<evan@snarc.net<mailto:evan@snarc.net <evan@snarc.net>>> wrote:

HuffPo is now claiming that everyone else -- they even mention SIGCIS -- are

the ones with the agenda and conspiracy!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deborah-j-nightingale/the-history-of-email-fiv

e-myths-about-email_b_5756340.html

On 09/03/2014 11:50 AM, Brian Randell wrote:

Hi:

Techdirt has an article "Why Is Huffington Post Running A Multi-Part Series

To Promote The Lies Of A Guy Who Pretended To Invent Email?"

at:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140901/07280928386/huffpo-publishes-biza

rre-misleading-factually-incorrect-multi-part-series-pretending-guy-invented

-email-even-though-he-didnt.shtml

Cheers

Brian Randell

School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1

7RU

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URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell

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