Tips on 18th - 20th c. nautical and astronomical tables
Dear Colleagues, Can anyone recommend key works on 18th-20th c. astronomical, nautical, and maritime charts, esp as a pre-history to modern information processing? I’m trying to write a history of how 19th c. visuality was pieced together at sea, from a patchwork of observations, charts, tables, astrolabes, etc, in which a regime of calculations and information processing figure centrally in making visual sense of the surrounding world. To give a very general idea of where I’m coming from, I’ve found some very useful work in the Campbell-Kelly et al volume on “The History of Mathematical Tables,” and Mindell’s work on naval systems of artillery control has also been an inspiring point of reference. Thank for your thoughts on further sources! Warmly, Bernard
Bernard - This may be far off your topic, but you could take a look at the website of the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History at the web object group Mathematical Charts and Tables | National Museum of American History (si.edu)<https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/object-groups/mathematical-charts-and-tables>. The section on "resources" might lead you to something useful, although the emphasis is on mathematical, not marine charts or astronomical tables. Best - Peggy Kidwell ________________________________ From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Bernard Geoghegan <bernardgeoghegan2010@u.northwestern.edu> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:29 AM To: members@SIGCIS.org <members@sigcis.org> Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Tips on 18th - 20th c. nautical and astronomical tables External Email - Exercise Caution Dear Colleagues, Can anyone recommend key works on 18th-20th c. astronomical, nautical, and maritime charts, esp as a pre-history to modern information processing? I’m trying to write a history of how 19th c. visuality was pieced together at sea, from a patchwork of observations, charts, tables, astrolabes, etc, in which a regime of calculations and information processing figure centrally in making visual sense of the surrounding world. To give a very general idea of where I’m coming from, I’ve found some very useful work in the Campbell-Kelly et al volume on “The History of Mathematical Tables,” and Mindell’s work on naval systems of artillery control has also been an inspiring point of reference. Thank for your thoughts on further sources! Warmly, Bernard
Hello Bernard Also perhaps not completely on topic, but Edward Hutchins’ Cognition in the Wild<https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/cognition-wild> is brilliant on the overlaps between theories of cognition and navigational computation. Best Kriti From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Kidwell, Peggy <kidwellp@si.edu> Date: Monday, 4 April 2022 at 12:38 To: Bernard Geoghegan <bernardgeoghegan2010@u.northwestern.edu>, members@SIGCIS.org <members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Tips on 18th - 20th c. nautical and astronomical tables You don't often get email from kidwellp@si.edu. Learn why this is important<http://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> Bernard - This may be far off your topic, but you could take a look at the website of the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History at the web object group Mathematical Charts and Tables | National Museum of American History (si.edu)<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Famericanhistory.si.edu%2Fcollections%2Fobject-groups%2Fmathematical-charts-and-tables&data=04%7C01%7Ckriti.kapila%40kcl.ac.uk%7Cbdd8a4bf8b02423bf7c008da162fa1bb%7C8370cf1416f34c16b83c724071654356%7C0%7C0%7C637846691310254269%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=M4CkiNvd5PAiWCDJXtbI0AMBnKjJICqmuFekeHc2kFQ%3D&reserved=0>. The section on "resources" might lead you to something useful, although the emphasis is on mathematical, not marine charts or astronomical tables. Best - Peggy Kidwell ________________________________ From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Bernard Geoghegan <bernardgeoghegan2010@u.northwestern.edu> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:29 AM To: members@SIGCIS.org <members@sigcis.org> Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Tips on 18th - 20th c. nautical and astronomical tables External Email - Exercise Caution Dear Colleagues, Can anyone recommend key works on 18th-20th c. astronomical, nautical, and maritime charts, esp as a pre-history to modern information processing? I’m trying to write a history of how 19th c. visuality was pieced together at sea, from a patchwork of observations, charts, tables, astrolabes, etc, in which a regime of calculations and information processing figure centrally in making visual sense of the surrounding world. To give a very general idea of where I’m coming from, I’ve found some very useful work in the Campbell-Kelly et al volume on “The History of Mathematical Tables,” and Mindell’s work on naval systems of artillery control has also been an inspiring point of reference. Thank for your thoughts on further sources! Warmly, Bernard
Dear Bernard, on the maritime part of your question: I would definitely have a look at the works of Sabine Höhler (KTH Stockholm): "Depth Records and Ocean Volumes: Ocean Profiling by Sounding Technology, 1850-1930," History and Technology 18 (2002) 2, pp. 119-154. and "Nature’s Accountability. Theme issue Science as Culture 19 (2010) 4", co-edited with Rafael Ziegler. I was also fascinated by the works of Helen Mair Rawsthorne (LASTIG, Université Gustave Eiffel). She gave a talk on "Analysing 18th century hydrographic data: a campaign in the Bay of Biscay, 1750-1751“ and used Digital Humanities methods for it. Amazing research! Best wishes from Darmstadt, Martin Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter | Post-Doc | digital enthusiast Technische Universität Darmstadt Institut für Geschichte Fachgebiet Technikgeschichte Mail: martin.schmitt@tu-darmstadt.de<mailto:martin.schmitt@tu-darmstadt.de> Tel: +49 6151-16-57327 http://www.computerisierung.com & Assoziierter Wissenschaftler LEIBNIZ-ZENTRUM FÜR ZEITHISTORISCHE FORSCHUNG | POTSDAM Vice Chair IFIP WG 9.7 „History of computing“ Zuletzt erschienen: Die Digitalisierung der Kreditwirtschaft. Computereinsatz in den Sparkassen der Bundesrepublik und der DDR 1957-1991, Göttingen: Wallstein-Verlag 2021, https://www.wallstein-verlag.de/9783835333710-die-digitalisierung-der-kredit... Am 04.04.2022 um 13:29 schrieb Bernard Geoghegan <bernardgeoghegan2010@u.northwestern.edu<mailto:bernardgeoghegan2010@u.northwestern.edu>>: Dear Colleagues, Can anyone recommend key works on 18th-20th c. astronomical, nautical, and maritime charts, esp as a pre-history to modern information processing? I’m trying to write a history of how 19th c. visuality was pieced together at sea, from a patchwork of observations, charts, tables, astrolabes, etc, in which a regime of calculations and information processing figure centrally in making visual sense of the surrounding world. To give a very general idea of where I’m coming from, I’ve found some very useful work in the Campbell-Kelly et al volume on “The History of Mathematical Tables,” and Mindell’s work on naval systems of artillery control has also been an inspiring point of reference. Thank for your thoughts on further sources! Warmly, Bernard _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org<http://sigcis.org/>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
Bernard, Another source on the nautical part would be Margaret Schotte Sailing School: Navigating Science and Skill, 1550-1880 (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 2019). Here is her website on the book: https://www.sailingschoolbook.com/ <https://www.sailingschoolbook.com/> Best, Ross Bassett
On Apr 4, 2022, at 7:29 AM, Bernard Geoghegan <bernardgeoghegan2010@u.northwestern.edu> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Can anyone recommend key works on 18th-20th c. astronomical, nautical, and maritime charts, esp as a pre-history to modern information processing? I’m trying to write a history of how 19th c. visuality was pieced together at sea, from a patchwork of observations, charts, tables, astrolabes, etc, in which a regime of calculations and information processing figure centrally in making visual sense of the surrounding world.
To give a very general idea of where I’m coming from, I’ve found some very useful work in the Campbell-Kelly et al volume on “The History of Mathematical Tables,” and Mindell’s work on naval systems of artillery control has also been an inspiring point of reference.
Thank for your thoughts on further sources!
Warmly, Bernard _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
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Bernard, though he doesn't work explicitly on navigation, it might be rewarding to get in touch with Omar Nasim at the University of Regensburg/Germany hwo has been working on astro-photography and it's translation into celestial maps from the 19th century onward. I'm sure he can provide you not only with his own excellent writings but also a plethora of sources. (And when you're done with the writing I'd love to read it ...) Many greetings Friedrich Quoting Bernard Geoghegan <bernardgeoghegan2010@u.northwestern.edu>:
Dear Colleagues,
Can anyone recommend key works on 18th-20th c. astronomical, nautical, and maritime charts, esp as a pre-history to modern information processing? I’m trying to write a history of how 19th c. visuality was pieced together at sea, from a patchwork of observations, charts, tables, astrolabes, etc, in which a regime of calculations and information processing figure centrally in making visual sense of the surrounding world.
To give a very general idea of where I’m coming from, I’ve found some very useful work in the Campbell-Kelly et al volume on “The History of Mathematical Tables,” and Mindell’s work on naval systems of artillery control has also been an inspiring point of reference.
Thank for your thoughts on further sources!
Warmly, Bernard
Hello, In terms of astronomical/navigational tables useful resources may (?) include: Dick, S. J. (2002). Sky and Ocean Joined: The U.S. Naval Observatory 1830-2000. Cambridge University Press: Cambridge. Not to be confused with another source I think might be useful: Sky With Ocean Joined - Proceedings of the Sesquicentennial Symposia U.S. Naval Observatory - December 5 and 8, 1980 (1983) Eds Dick, Steven J., And Leroy E. Doggett (Author) A short piece of relevance by some of the people at the American Nautical Almanac office looking back through its history as computerization had fully taken hold: The Almanacs—Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow P. K. Seidelmann, P. M. Janiczek and R. F. Haupt (U.S. Naval Observatory) The Journal of Navigation , Volume 30 , Issue 2 , May 1977 , pp. 310 - 322 DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/S037346330004399X This is just a few starting points. In my PhD thesis I concerned myself with the much more limited quesiton of the way astronomical calculation including a few of the key calculations for navigation tables were automated. The main subject of my research (W J Eckert) was head of the Amercan Nautical Alamanac Office during World War II and I discuss his work during the war a little and his other work before and after the war had some significance for astronomical and navigational tables. https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/handle/1807/29830 -- Yours Truly, Allan Olley, PhD http://individual.utoronto.ca/fofound On Mon, 4 Apr 2022, Bernard Geoghegan wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Can anyone recommend key works on 18th-20th c. astronomical, nautical, and maritime charts, esp as a pre-history to modern information processing? I’m trying to write a history of how 19th c. visuality was pieced together at sea, from a patchwork of observations, charts, tables, astrolabes, etc, in which a regime of calculations and information processing figure centrally in making visual sense of the surrounding world.
To give a very general idea of where I’m coming from, I’ve found some very useful work in the Campbell-Kelly et al volume on “The History of Mathematical Tables,” and Mindell’s work on naval systems of artillery control has also been an inspiring point of reference.
Thank for your thoughts on further sources!
Warmly, Bernard
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