Hello all - I am interested in learning more about the history of identity systems on computer networks. From finger to CompuServe IDs to Twitter handles. Any advice for resources? I am most interested in the design trade-offs made for each system. Priorities may include memorability, ease of administration, anonymity, user flexibility, findability, uniqueness, and cultural issues that relate to self identification or identification in society. Any research that pertains to these issues is much appreciated. While I have your attention, I'll also ask if anybody would like to anecdotally share any particularly absurd or well-conceived identity systems they have encountered. Many thanks! /David -- w: http://schmud.de e: d@schmud.de t: @dschmudde
Hi David, Interesting topic! I’m looking forward to hearing more and seeing your resource pool. I can share a few things including: • a collection of discussions/newsletters from when FidoNet SysOps were heavily debating the enforcement of "real name" policies in the early 1990s • several journal articles also from the BBS era exploring how beneficial handles ("second lives" as one author declared) were for LGBTQ, at-risk, and bullied youth to freely explore their authentic self I’ll reach out directly soon. KO ▋ ĸyra oceaɴ reнɴ〈KEER-a REN〉 Artist⌁Researcher⌁Strategist⌁Curator ↯ kyraocean.com ↯ softdetours.com On 20 Jan 2021, 14:25 -0800, D. Schmudde <d@schmud.de>, wrote:
Hello all -
I am interested in learning more about the history of identity systems on computer networks. From finger to CompuServe IDs to Twitter handles. Any advice for resources?
I am most interested in the design trade-offs made for each system. Priorities may include memorability, ease of administration, anonymity, user flexibility, findability, uniqueness, and cultural issues that relate to self identification or identification in society.
Any research that pertains to these issues is much appreciated. While I have your attention, I'll also ask if anybody would like to anecdotally share any particularly absurd or well-conceived identity systems they have encountered.
Many thanks!
/David
-- w: http://schmud.de e: d@schmud.de t: @dschmudde
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Hi D.K., I'm really interested in seeing these materials too! I'm writing about this material from a trans perspective-- I've done a little work on anonymizing servers on Usenet, but I'm really curious about the FidoNet stuff especially! Thanks so much, Cass On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:04 PM D.K. Rehn <disksurfing@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David,
Interesting topic! I’m looking forward to hearing more and seeing your resource pool.
I can share a few things including:
• a collection of discussions/newsletters from when FidoNet SysOps were heavily debating the enforcement of "real name" policies in the early 1990s
• several journal articles also from the BBS era exploring how beneficial handles ("second lives" as one author declared) were for LGBTQ, at-risk, and bullied youth to freely explore their authentic self
I’ll reach out directly soon.
KO ▋
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Hello all -
I am interested in learning more about the history of identity systems on computer networks. From finger to CompuServe IDs to Twitter handles. Any advice for resources?
I am most interested in the design trade-offs made for each system. Priorities may include memorability, ease of administration, anonymity, user flexibility, findability, uniqueness, and cultural issues that relate to self identification or identification in society.
Any research that pertains to these issues is much appreciated. While I have your attention, I'll also ask if anybody would like to anecdotally share any particularly absurd or well-conceived identity systems they have encountered.
Many thanks!
/David
-- w: http://schmud.de e: d@schmud.de t: @dschmudde
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Hey Cass, That’s great! Looking forward to hearing about your efforts as well. It’s been a few years so I’ll need to locate/de-scatter the resources and send them over once I do. I’m glad that there’s interest as I was so thrilled when I discovered it all—especially in that there was some research on identity happening concurrently with nascent online culture. Be well, KO ▋ ĸyra oceaɴ reнɴ〈KEER-a REN〉 Artist⌁Researcher⌁Strategist⌁Curator ↯ kyraocean.com ↯ softdetours.com On 20 Jan 2021, 15:10 -0800, Cassius Adair <ca2594@nyu.edu>, wrote:
Hi D.K., I'm really interested in seeing these materials too! I'm writing about this material from a trans perspective-- I've done a little work on anonymizing servers on Usenet, but I'm really curious about the FidoNet stuff especially!
Thanks so much, Cass
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:04 PM D.K. Rehn <disksurfing@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David,
Interesting topic! I’m looking forward to hearing more and seeing your resource pool.
I can share a few things including:
• a collection of discussions/newsletters from when FidoNet SysOps were heavily debating the enforcement of "real name" policies in the early 1990s
• several journal articles also from the BBS era exploring how beneficial handles ("second lives" as one author declared) were for LGBTQ, at-risk, and bullied youth to freely explore their authentic self
I’ll reach out directly soon.
KO ▋
ĸyra oceaɴ reнɴ〈KEER-a REN〉 Artist⌁Researcher⌁Strategist⌁Curator ↯ kyraocean.com ↯ softdetours.com On 20 Jan 2021, 14:25 -0800, D. Schmudde <d@schmud.de>, wrote:
Hello all -
I am interested in learning more about the history of identity systems on computer networks. From finger to CompuServe IDs to Twitter handles. Any advice for resources?
I am most interested in the design trade-offs made for each system. Priorities may include memorability, ease of administration, anonymity, user flexibility, findability, uniqueness, and cultural issues that relate to self identification or identification in society.
Any research that pertains to these issues is much appreciated. While I have your attention, I'll also ask if anybody would like to anecdotally share any particularly absurd or well-conceived identity systems they have encountered.
Many thanks!
/David
-- w: http://schmud.de e: d@schmud.de t: @dschmudde
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Hi David, You might find Practicing privacy on other networks: network structures, economic arrangements, and identity strategies before cookies <https://www-tandfonline-com.proxy.library.georgetown.edu/doi/full/10.1080/24701475.2020.1747344> published recently in Internet Histories valuable. I'm really interested in your project and hope you'll keep us/me updated! Meg On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 6:22 PM Kyra Ocean Rehn <disksurfing@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Cass,
That’s great! Looking forward to hearing about your efforts as well.
It’s been a few years so I’ll need to locate/de-scatter the resources and send them over once I do.
I’m glad that there’s interest as I was so thrilled when I discovered it all—especially in that there was some research on identity happening concurrently with nascent online culture.
Be well, KO ▋
ĸyra oceaɴ reнɴ〈KEER-a REN〉 Artist⌁Researcher⌁Strategist⌁Curator *↯* kyraocean.com *↯* softdetours.com On 20 Jan 2021, 15:10 -0800, Cassius Adair <ca2594@nyu.edu>, wrote:
Hi D.K., I'm really interested in seeing these materials too! I'm writing about this material from a trans perspective-- I've done a little work on anonymizing servers on Usenet, but I'm really curious about the FidoNet stuff especially!
Thanks so much, Cass
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:04 PM D.K. Rehn <disksurfing@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David,
Interesting topic! I’m looking forward to hearing more and seeing your resource pool.
I can share a few things including:
• a collection of discussions/newsletters from when FidoNet SysOps were heavily debating the enforcement of "real name" policies in the early 1990s
• several journal articles also from the BBS era exploring how beneficial handles ("second lives" as one author declared) were for LGBTQ, at-risk, and bullied youth to freely explore their authentic self
I’ll reach out directly soon.
KO ▋
ĸyra oceaɴ reнɴ〈KEER-a REN〉 Artist⌁Researcher⌁Strategist⌁Curator *↯* kyraocean.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__kyraocean.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=YoVxr4qH9Mu53Kf1Z11YQQ&m=Z-OC5l3zJrHSjj1HIHBy5RSEpdMQv6cMWUk52uYqYIc&s=z8TWuQDxgI6qWAXJ005Kd3hFfBgF6PUQnyDyx7qTrmQ&e=> *↯* softdetours.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__softdetours.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=YoVxr4qH9Mu53Kf1Z11YQQ&m=Z-OC5l3zJrHSjj1HIHBy5RSEpdMQv6cMWUk52uYqYIc&s=aD7AyP6tcPdLwTl1dXZpllP53mEfQQLhTTYcRLcIkD8&e=> On 20 Jan 2021, 14:25 -0800, D. Schmudde <d@schmud.de>, wrote:
Hello all -
I am interested in learning more about the history of identity systems on computer networks. From finger to CompuServe IDs to Twitter handles. Any advice for resources?
I am most interested in the design trade-offs made for each system. Priorities may include memorability, ease of administration, anonymity, user flexibility, findability, uniqueness, and cultural issues that relate to self identification or identification in society.
Any research that pertains to these issues is much appreciated. While I have your attention, I'll also ask if anybody would like to anecdotally share any particularly absurd or well-conceived identity systems they have encountered.
Many thanks!
/David
-- w: http://schmud.de e: d@schmud.de t: @dschmudde
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David, While I don't have anything published ATM, I can share some anecdotes related to LGBTQ-oriented BBSes, which often had users adopting other identities. There's also anecdotal evidence that when transgender AOL users were advocating to overturn the ban on use of "transsexual" and "transvestite" (both were classified by content moderation as "offensive" language), moderators contacted users under their legal names (which were attached to their accounts for payment purposes) - a move that these users took as an implied threat AOL could out them in retaliation. Let me know if you'd like to talk further! Best, Avery On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 2:53 PM Meg Leta Jones <Meg.Jones@georgetown.edu> wrote:
Hi David, You might find Practicing privacy on other networks: network structures, economic arrangements, and identity strategies before cookies <https://www-tandfonline-com.proxy.library.georgetown.edu/doi/full/10.1080/24701475.2020.1747344> published recently in Internet Histories valuable. I'm really interested in your project and hope you'll keep us/me updated! Meg
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 6:22 PM Kyra Ocean Rehn <disksurfing@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Cass,
That’s great! Looking forward to hearing about your efforts as well.
It’s been a few years so I’ll need to locate/de-scatter the resources and send them over once I do.
I’m glad that there’s interest as I was so thrilled when I discovered it all—especially in that there was some research on identity happening concurrently with nascent online culture.
Be well, KO ▋
ĸyra oceaɴ reнɴ〈KEER-a REN〉 Artist⌁Researcher⌁Strategist⌁Curator *↯* kyraocean.com *↯* softdetours.com On 20 Jan 2021, 15:10 -0800, Cassius Adair <ca2594@nyu.edu>, wrote:
Hi D.K., I'm really interested in seeing these materials too! I'm writing about this material from a trans perspective-- I've done a little work on anonymizing servers on Usenet, but I'm really curious about the FidoNet stuff especially!
Thanks so much, Cass
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:04 PM D.K. Rehn <disksurfing@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David,
Interesting topic! I’m looking forward to hearing more and seeing your resource pool.
I can share a few things including:
• a collection of discussions/newsletters from when FidoNet SysOps were heavily debating the enforcement of "real name" policies in the early 1990s
• several journal articles also from the BBS era exploring how beneficial handles ("second lives" as one author declared) were for LGBTQ, at-risk, and bullied youth to freely explore their authentic self
I’ll reach out directly soon.
KO ▋
ĸyra oceaɴ reнɴ〈KEER-a REN〉 Artist⌁Researcher⌁Strategist⌁Curator *↯* kyraocean.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__kyraocean.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=YoVxr4qH9Mu53Kf1Z11YQQ&m=Z-OC5l3zJrHSjj1HIHBy5RSEpdMQv6cMWUk52uYqYIc&s=z8TWuQDxgI6qWAXJ005Kd3hFfBgF6PUQnyDyx7qTrmQ&e=> *↯* softdetours.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__softdetours.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=YoVxr4qH9Mu53Kf1Z11YQQ&m=Z-OC5l3zJrHSjj1HIHBy5RSEpdMQv6cMWUk52uYqYIc&s=aD7AyP6tcPdLwTl1dXZpllP53mEfQQLhTTYcRLcIkD8&e=> On 20 Jan 2021, 14:25 -0800, D. Schmudde <d@schmud.de>, wrote:
Hello all -
I am interested in learning more about the history of identity systems on computer networks. From finger to CompuServe IDs to Twitter handles. Any advice for resources?
I am most interested in the design trade-offs made for each system. Priorities may include memorability, ease of administration, anonymity, user flexibility, findability, uniqueness, and cultural issues that relate to self identification or identification in society.
Any research that pertains to these issues is much appreciated. While I have your attention, I'll also ask if anybody would like to anecdotally share any particularly absurd or well-conceived identity systems they have encountered.
Many thanks!
/David
-- w: http://schmud.de e: d@schmud.de t: @dschmudde
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Kyra Ocean Rehn
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