Hello James,

Did you try to send the message from the new account? I don't remember seeing it...

Tom

-----Original Message----- From: James Sumner [mailto:james.sumner@manchester.ac.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 9:14 AM To: Thomas Haigh Subject: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

Good idea. Page has been updated; I'll announce it to the list now.

Best James

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OK. I added this address to the list, but turned off mail delivery for it so it should be good for sending but will not fill up with extra copies of

On 01/12/2010 21:17, Thomas Haigh wrote: the

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list messages.

Tom

-----Original Message----- From: James Sumner [mailto:james.sumner@manchester.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:44 AM To: Thomas Haigh Subject: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

Hi Tom

Sorry -- I'd forgotten this detail. But I doubt I can get anything done to fix it at this end. I'll drop a line to IT services, whose typical approach to anything non-obvious is to reassign it to someone I can't contact directly and ignore it forever.

There's james@jbsumner.com , I suppose -- I try not to use this much, but it will do the job. Please set it up as accepted.

Thanks! James

On 30/11/2010 22:19, Thomas Haigh wrote:

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Hello James,

What I recall finding when we checked before is that this was a case of your email server being unable to find the sigcis.org domain or communicate with the SMTP receiver running on it (failing on RCPT as it tries to establish the recipient) and therefore refusing to transmit the message.

It is not that the SIGCIS listserv receiving the message and rejecting it for some reason. That makes it much harder to fix, as it's a problem

[Forwarded from James Sumner -- james.sumner@manchester.ac.uk.] Dear listmembers The full version of "History of computing in the UK: a resource guide" is now up on the SIGCIS site, joining Tom Haigh's more general resource guide and Chigusa Kita's Japanese listing. Please take a look: http://www.sigcis.org/britain Suggested additions and corrections are very welcome -- as are comments on the arrangement and scope. Putting together this kind of finding aid always involves a lot of subjective decisions about what to include and how to present it. For the record, my ground rules have been - to offer starting-points for researchers, rather than trying to be comprehensive - to follow the shape of the literature, rather than trying to give balanced coverage to areas where not much has been written - to focus on secondary sources, listing primary sources only when they're particularly rewarding and/or the secondary source base is particularly light - not to exclude anything purely on the grounds that it's difficult to access. I hope I've managed to come up with something most people will find useful. Thanks again to everyone who has contributed material so far! Best James On 17/12/2010 18:57, Thomas Haigh wrote: that

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taking place in the interaction between the two servers that is for some reason only afflicting your email server and maybe a few others.

I am cc'ing Brent to see if he has any ideas.

As a workaround do you have another email account you can use for SIGCIS? I can manually add it as an accepted sender to both lists.

Tom

-----Original Message----- From: James Sumner [mailto:james.sumner@manchester.ac.uk] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 3:07 PM To: Thomas Haigh Subject: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

Tom,

This is evidently a persistent problem. Checking my mail archives shows that I haven't been able to get a message through since July.

Please could you forward the message?

Thanks James

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:04:09 +0000 From: Mail Delivery System<Mailer-Daemon@tranquility.mcc.ac.uk> To:<james.sumner@manchester.ac.uk>

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

exec@sigcis.org SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<exec@sigcis.org>: host mailstore1.secureserver.net [72.167.238.201]: 550 #5.1.0 Address rejected exec@sigcis.org

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Return-path:<james.sumner@manchester.ac.uk> Received: from rankine.its.manchester.ac.uk ([130.88.25.196]) by tranquility.mcc.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from<james.sumner@manchester.ac.uk>) id 1PMoPm-000A6r-2u for exec@sigcis.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:04:06 +0000 Received: from [82.152.251.77] (port=4690 helo=[10.0.0.11]) by rankine.its.manchester.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from<james.sumner@manchester.ac.uk>) id 1PMoPl-0004YS-Tr for exec@sigcis.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:04:05 +0000 Message-ID:<4CF2C3C4.8020902@manchester.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:04:04 +0000 From: James Sumner<james.sumner@manchester.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: exec@sigcis.org Subject: UK resource guide again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: James Sumner from ([10.0.0.11]) [82.152.251.77]:4690 X-Authenticated-From: James.Sumner@manchester.ac.uk

Dear all

As (repeatedly) promised, a revised version is up as a draft -- not publicly visible -- at http://www.sigcis.org/node/113

Comments welcome. Do we think this is now in a fit state to be promoted to the membership? (If so, could someone please tell me how to make it appear as a link from the main site?)

Best James