Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Cray 1 serial number 01 being put together on Facebook Live at SC 2018
Editor’s note: I cropped the image and reduced its size because the file was too big for the list. ~ Sharon Irish Greetings, Please let me offer this image from the Cray-1 that was on display at SC18 in Dallas last week, an image taken when it was disassembled. It is a closeup of the manufacturer tags showing it to be a Cray-1B serial number 1. Hopefully it helps to confirm this one small detail. Also, let me note that this machine garnered much attention from many of the 13,000 SC18 attendees. Cheers, Dana Freiburger, Graduate Student Researcher, SC18 30th Anniversary Committee Doctoral Candidate, History of Science Program, University of Wisconsin-Madison [cid:C1CF2343-932E-47A2-8DCC-C40E03523633]
You know, our school- like I believe all schools - require us to put our research plans through an IRB review. The historians are generally quite cavalier about the process and view it as a form of red tape. I think I subscribed to that point of view but this discussion has given me pause - especially the the recent photo of the serial plate. I never did much with #1, though I had a little exposure to it. I mostly worked in #7 (or maybe 17, the GTE machine). And I was a software engineer for a competing company trying to unseat Cray. Work done in vain. I’ve seen decommissioned Crays before. Heavens I’ve seen a photo of my machine in a Pennsylvania landfill. But the recent discussion had made it clear that that machine, that time of my life and the concerns of that time have passed into history. Nothing can bring them back. The things that required such thought and the skills we needed to make them work are now curiosities. I once edited a journal with an “Old-timers” column and had no thought about it but I now wonder if that term doesn’t have more sting than I thought at the time. The Cray was a beautifully engineered machine and the programming techniques, especially those to eliminate dependencies were a painstakingly built body of knowledge. But they were of a time now passed and we are faced with describing that world with some of the survivors in our midst. We can approach it from several points of view: heroism, nostalgia, curiosity, a second guessed critique of the engineering, a search for physical histories of the Cold War. We know that the eye witnesses of technical development don’t always see thing clearly. We don’t always think about their feeling when we are fur a different point of view. That must be a reason for IRB reviews and this discussion, at least for me, has illustrated the psychological and emotional gulf between then and now, between the perspective of those who were working in a field and those who are trying to analyze it with our current consciousness. I’ve always thought that history should strive to rise above the personal. From this discussion, I think I understand a little better, why that is so hard.
On Nov 17, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Irish, Sharon Lee <slirish@illinois.edu> wrote:
Editor’s note: I cropped the image and reduced its size because the file was too big for the list. ~ Sharon Irish
Greetings,
Please let me offer this image from the Cray-1 that was on display at SC18 in Dallas last week, an image taken when it was disassembled. It is a closeup of the manufacturer tags showing it to be a Cray-1B serial number 1. Hopefully it helps to confirm this one small detail. Also, let me note that this machine garnered much attention from many of the 13,000 SC18 attendees. Cheers,
Dana Freiburger, Graduate Student Researcher, SC18 30th Anniversary Committee Doctoral Candidate, History of Science Program, University of Wisconsin-Madison <CrayResearchTags[2].png> _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
David, these thoughts resonate for me; I’ve experienced them much more than I ever would have expected. I especially love your phrase “we are faced with describing a world with some of the survivors in our midst” and yes, “eye witnesses of technical development don’t always see things clearly” but they often have nuanced perspective that historians struggle to attain—delicisous problem, unless youi’re one of the “oldtimers” On the Computer History Museum board, a few of us (Gordon Bell, John Mashey, Ike Nassi, Gardner Hendrie and I) were called “Old White Guys” by a female Board member who recently joined. Talk about “sting” Crays, Stretch machines, the HP 9100 algorithmic calculator, trimmed analog delay lines, Nixie tubes, and nuvistors are history indeed. From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of David Grier <grier@email.gwu.edu> Date: Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:03 PM To: "members@sigcis.org" <members@sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Cray 1 serial number 01 being put together on Facebook Live at SC 2018 You know, our school- like I believe all schools - require us to put our research plans through an IRB review. The historians are generally quite cavalier about the process and view it as a form of red tape. I think I subscribed to that point of view but this discussion has given me pause - especially the the recent photo of the serial plate. I never did much with #1, though I had a little exposure to it. I mostly worked in #7 (or maybe 17, the GTE machine). And I was a software engineer for a competing company trying to unseat Cray. Work done in vain. I’ve seen decommissioned Crays before. Heavens I’ve seen a photo of my machine in a Pennsylvania landfill. But the recent discussion had made it clear that that machine, that time of my life and the concerns of that time have passed into history. Nothing can bring them back. The things that required such thought and the skills we needed to make them work are now curiosities. I once edited a journal with an “Old-timers” column and had no thought about it but I now wonder if that term doesn’t have more sting than I thought at the time. The Cray was a beautifully engineered machine and the programming techniques, especially those to eliminate dependencies were a painstakingly built body of knowledge. But they were of a time now passed and we are faced with describing that world with some of the survivors in our midst. We can approach it from several points of view: heroism, nostalgia, curiosity, a second guessed critique of the engineering, a search for physical histories of the Cold War. We know that the eye witnesses of technical development don’t always see thing clearly. We don’t always think about their feeling when we are fur a different point of view. That must be a reason for IRB reviews and this discussion, at least for me, has illustrated the psychological and emotional gulf between then and now, between the perspective of those who were working in a field and those who are trying to analyze it with our current consciousness. I’ve always thought that history should strive to rise above the personal. From this discussion, I think I understand a little better, why that is so hard. On Nov 17, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Irish, Sharon Lee <slirish@illinois.edu> wrote: Editor’s note: I cropped the image and reduced its size because the file was too big for the list. ~ Sharon Irish Greetings, Please let me offer this image from the Cray-1 that was on display at SC18 in Dallas last week, an image taken when it was disassembled. It is a closeup of the manufacturer tags showing it to be a Cray-1B serial number 1. Hopefully it helps to confirm this one small detail. Also, let me note that this machine garnered much attention from many of the 13,000 SC18 attendees. Cheers, Dana Freiburger, Graduate Student Researcher, SC18 30th Anniversary Committee Doctoral Candidate, History of Science Program, University of Wisconsin-Madison <CrayResearchTags[2].png> _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
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