History courses in CS departments
Hi everyone, I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent. The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college. It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank
Hi Evan, it is not a contemporary US course but if it is any help to know, I gave lectures on retro tech at the Univ of Bristol, UK, for at least a decade as part of the contemporary archaeology strand. I continue to publishing in that field, and Artifacts is still in print! cheers, Christine On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 at 17:42, Evan Koblentz via Members < members@lists.sigcis.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
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Hi Evan- it’s not exactly a history course, but I teach a seminar targeted at final year undergead students in Brown University’s CS department called “CS for Social Change” in which we cover _some_ labor history (very peremptorily), in case it’s helpful: https://cs-for-social-change.ohrg.org/ This is part of the Socially Responsible Computing program, which is a department-wide initiative to integrate certain kinds of socio-historical thinking in the undergraduate CS curriculum, website here: http://ethics.cs.brown.edu/ (We’re working on making our materials more public, so there’s not as much info as there could be on this side currently— but I’m happy to share more details about it if anything specifically interests.) Best, Lachlan Kermode On 15 Feb 2023, at 12:52, Christine Finn via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> wrote: Hi Evan, it is not a contemporary US course but if it is any help to know, I gave lectures on retro tech at the Univ of Bristol, UK, for at least a decade as part of the contemporary archaeology strand. I continue to publishing in that field, and Artifacts is still in print! cheers, Christine On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 at 17:42, Evan Koblentz via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org<mailto:members@lists.sigcis.org>> wrote: Hi everyone, I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent. The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college. It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu> (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank<https://web.njit.edu/~evank/> _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org<http://sigcis.org>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
Eva: I taught a History of Computing Course back in 2000 George Washington University in the Computer Science Dept., but could not reprise it because of need to re-allocate me to other courses. I strongly believe in the History of Computing and have embarked on a multi-volume series of books called Historical Computing Machines being published by Cambridge Scholars Publishing of Newcastle-on-Tyne, England. So far, 7 volumes have been published with the 2-book set on Control Data to be submitted within the next month for publication. I did this because when I queried my students about historical events in computing, they were largely unaware of them. So, I started writing this series to provide a set of books describe various machine architectures. I use anecdotes from the books to infuse my lectures with historical information. Stephen Kaisler Adjunct Professor of Engineering Dept. of Computer Science George Washington University
On 02/15/2023 12:40 PM Evan Koblentz via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities?
-- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
evank@njit.edu mailto:evank@njit.edu (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank/
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Hi Evan, Unfortunate as it may be, sometimes a good bureaucracy hack is to make an argument from authority. In this case, Alan Kay has many talks in which he laments the lack of history in CS education -- to the point where he calls computing a "pop culture." Alan is quite passionate about these issues, so it might be the case that if you reach out to him he'd have some advice or maybe even provide an endorsement (then your dept would have to argue against the stamp of a Turing awardee) On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:42 PM Evan Koblentz via Members < members@lists.sigcis.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
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-- Eric
Hi Evan-- At Pacific Lutheran University (Tacoma, WA), I teach: * Hist 121: History in Video Games * Hist/Phil 248: Innovation, Ethics, and Society * Hist 346: History of Technology * CSCE: Windows Programming with Visual Studio The four courses overlap and many students take one on their way to a BA or BS degree in Computer Science. Since several satisfy GUR requirements, which all departments should contribute to, there is a case to be made to offer them. (We also have an Innovation Studies minor that the courses apply to.) In general, our CS faculty is overloaded with demand and they appreciate the extra courses, which are allowed as electives. By focusing on history, ethics, and society, I am able to connect to core CS learning outcomes that are sometimes neglected in traditional CS courses. However, justifying a faculty member within the department to teach these topics is an ongoing challenge. My home department is History / Innovation Studies. Best of luck! Michael On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:41 AM Evan Koblentz via Members < members@lists.sigcis.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
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-- Michael J. Halvorson, Ph.D. Benson Family Chair in Business and Economic History Professor of History Director of Innovation Studies
Our students started taking it partially because they thought it would be "easy" and partially because the ACM chapter leaders knew me (through my daytime job here, as a writer in the university communications office), so they recommended the course to their peers. Now it's in the third semester and the course has been very popular. For the current semester, the course is full at 43 students, and there were two dozen on the waiting list. On 2/15/23 1:44 PM, Len Shustek via Members wrote:
I am currently teaching a short course in the history of computing at Stanford, but in the "Continuing Studies" (adult education) department.
I had previously pitched it to both the EE and CS departments. My conclusion after those discussions was that the faculty would be interested but, sadly, it was unlikely that the students would be. They are too focused on creating the next unicorn to be bothered with history.
Len Shustek Founding Chairman Emeritus Computer History Museum
At 09:40 AM 2/15/2023, Evan Koblentz via Members wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
evank@njit.edu (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org
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I would echo what Evan said—our students here at Rose-Hulman also thought my Software History course would be easy (but it’s not so easy). Now, it’s getting a good reputation and students keep asking me when it will be taught again. It’s become a popular CS computing elective. It’s currently taught as a computing elective and contains a fair amount of technical content, mostly based on the work I did for my textbook on the topic. --Kim From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Evan Koblentz via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 2:34 PM To: members@lists.sigcis.org <members@lists.sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] History courses in CS departments [External Sender] Our students started taking it partially because they thought it would be "easy" and partially because the ACM chapter leaders knew me (through my daytime job here, as a writer in the university communications office), so they recommended the course to their peers. Now it's in the third semester and the course has been very popular. For the current semester, the course is full at 43 students, and there were two dozen on the waiting list. On 2/15/23 1:44 PM, Len Shustek via Members wrote: I am currently teaching a short course in the history of computing at Stanford, but in the "Continuing Studies" (adult education) department. I had previously pitched it to both the EE and CS departments. My conclusion after those discussions was that the faculty would be interested but, sadly, it was unlikely that the students would be. They are too focused on creating the next unicorn to be bothered with history. Len Shustek Founding Chairman Emeritus Computer History Museum At 09:40 AM 2/15/2023, Evan Koblentz via Members wrote: Hi everyone, I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent. The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college. It would help if I can show them other examples. 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Another example that might be useful from the engineering side of things: the Engineering in Global Context course (ENGR31000) at Purdue. While not strictly a history class, you will see in the description and learning outcomes a considerable emphasis on historical content and themes. Also, it has an engineering course number - which I fought for in the approval process - and some of our engineering programs accept it as a technical elective. See: https://selfservice.mypurdue.purdue.edu/prod/bwckctlg.p_disp_course_detail?cat_term_in=202110&subj_code_in=ENGR&crse_numb_in=31000 And if anyone really wants to get into the weeds, here is a conference paper that includes a discussion about my experiences developing and getting approval for this course: https://strategy.asee.org/23198 ENGR31000 also has much in common with the Engineering Cultures course at Virginia Tech, originally developed by Gary Downey. While that course has long been popular as an elective among engineering students (especially to meet general education requirements), it is offered by a department (Science, Technology, and Society) in the College of Liberal Arts and Human Sciences. Best of luck! Brent ________________________________ From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Tracy, Kim via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 2:43 PM To: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu>; members@lists.sigcis.org <members@lists.sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] History courses in CS departments ---- External Email: Use caution with attachments, links, or sharing data ---- I would echo what Evan said—our students here at Rose-Hulman also thought my Software History course would be easy (but it’s not so easy). Now, it’s getting a good reputation and students keep asking me when it will be taught again. It’s become a popular CS computing elective. It’s currently taught as a computing elective and contains a fair amount of technical content, mostly based on the work I did for my textbook on the topic. --Kim From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Evan Koblentz via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 2:34 PM To: members@lists.sigcis.org <members@lists.sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] History courses in CS departments [External Sender] Our students started taking it partially because they thought it would be "easy" and partially because the ACM chapter leaders knew me (through my daytime job here, as a writer in the university communications office), so they recommended the course to their peers. Now it's in the third semester and the course has been very popular. For the current semester, the course is full at 43 students, and there were two dozen on the waiting list. On 2/15/23 1:44 PM, Len Shustek via Members wrote: I am currently teaching a short course in the history of computing at Stanford, but in the "Continuing Studies" (adult education) department. I had previously pitched it to both the EE and CS departments. My conclusion after those discussions was that the faculty would be interested but, sadly, it was unlikely that the students would be. They are too focused on creating the next unicorn to be bothered with history. Len Shustek Founding Chairman Emeritus Computer History Museum At 09:40 AM 2/15/2023, Evan Koblentz via Members wrote: Hi everyone, I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent. The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college. It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu> (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.njit.edu%2F~evank&data=05%7C01%7Ctracy%40rose-hulman.edu%7C9859b22389c248a4452f08db0f8ba72a%7C6c373827e5b745a7ae27b17e388fcad4%7C1%7C0%7C638120864708630530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FD9yB7DyH59Dd0bB519%2FX5W9L9qPhPKKTkDHuGEDUbk%3D&reserved=0> _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. 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FWIW, my late colleague Bob Doran taught a history of computing course for a number of years at the University of Auckland. It was taught as an Honours course, i.e. 4th year students in NZ parlance, and was focused on computer architecture, assessed by project work. Alas, the course is no longer taught, but its memorial is https://museum.cs.auckland.ac.nz/. Regards Brian Carpenter On 16-Feb-23 08:32, Evan Koblentz via Members wrote:
Our students started taking it partially because they thought it would be "easy" and partially because the ACM chapter leaders knew me (through my daytime job here, as a writer in the university communications office), so they recommended the course to their peers. Now it's in the third semester and the course has been very popular. For the current semester, the course is full at 43 students, and there were two dozen on the waiting list.
On 2/15/23 1:44 PM, Len Shustek via Members wrote:
I am currently teaching a short course in the history of computing at Stanford, but in the "Continuing Studies" (adult education) department.
I had previously pitched it to both the EE and CS departments. My conclusion after those discussions was that the faculty would be interested but, sadly, it was unlikely that the students would be. They are too focused on creating the next unicorn to be bothered with history.
Len Shustek Founding Chairman Emeritus Computer History Museum
At 09:40 AM 2/15/2023, Evan Koblentz via Members wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
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We require Data & Society, which is a class that is taught by our Rhetoric and Communication Dept (humanities division), in our Data Science Program (and it's a requirement for the minor) here at University of Richmond. Can send more info if that's helpful. Best, Lauren ________________________________ From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Brian E Carpenter via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 3:08:44 PM To: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu>; members@lists.sigcis.org <members@lists.sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] History courses in CS departments External Email: Use caution in opening links, attachments, and buying gift cards. FWIW, my late colleague Bob Doran taught a history of computing course for a number of years at the University of Auckland. It was taught as an Honours course, i.e. 4th year students in NZ parlance, and was focused on computer architecture, assessed by project work. Alas, the course is no longer taught, but its memorial is https://museum.cs.auckland.ac.nz/. Regards Brian Carpenter On 16-Feb-23 08:32, Evan Koblentz via Members wrote:
Our students started taking it partially because they thought it would be "easy" and partially because the ACM chapter leaders knew me (through my daytime job here, as a writer in the university communications office), so they recommended the course to their peers. Now it's in the third semester and the course has been very popular. For the current semester, the course is full at 43 students, and there were two dozen on the waiting list.
On 2/15/23 1:44 PM, Len Shustek via Members wrote:
I am currently teaching a short course in the history of computing at Stanford, but in the "Continuing Studies" (adult education) department.
I had previously pitched it to both the EE and CS departments. My conclusion after those discussions was that the faculty would be interested but, sadly, it was unlikely that the students would be. They are too focused on creating the next unicorn to be bothered with history.
Len Shustek Founding Chairman Emeritus Computer History Museum
At 09:40 AM 2/15/2023, Evan Koblentz via Members wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
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Hi Evan, Here at Yale, Professor Michael Fischer from Computer Science has been teaching an undergraduate course CPSC 414 "Computing Then and Now: How Digital Technology Evolves" since 2022. (There could be others at Yale - I'm just aware of this one because it always pays a visit to our museum objects related to the long history of computing!) The official course description is: "The goal of this course is to provide the historical perspective needed to think critically about today's emerging computing technologies such as AI, self-driving cars, autonomous drones, quantum computers, and blockchains. This course traces the evolution of selected examples of digital technology from their intellectual bases through ubiquitous deployment. Examples are drawn from computer hardware and software systems, networking, algorithms, and applications." Best wishes, Alexi Dr. Alexi Baker Division of the History of Science & Technology Yale Peabody Museum Tel. 203-737-3084 alexi.baker@yale.edu ________________________________ From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Evan Koblentz via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 12:40 PM To: members@lists.sigcis.org <members@lists.sigcis.org> Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] History courses in CS departments Hi everyone, I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent. The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college. It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu> (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.njit.edu%2F~evank%2F&data=05%7C01%7Calexi.baker%40yale.edu%7Ceac217aa5e8e46efef6008db0f7be021%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638120796941768957%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Zc5e6mH%2Fx%2FW%2BboiSWhzOZGZ5mcdNL%2BNNiQuS%2Bggd5ag%3D&reserved=0>
Not sure how convincing it would be to your particular audience, but you might consider looking around for similar courses in other science or engineering departments. For instance the University of Washington department of Earth and Space Sciences has a course listed with both undergrad and grad course numbers called "Great Geological Issues," with description "History and development of geological and paleontological theories and controversies; philosophy and methodology that have driven scientific inquiry in the earth sciences." I know these kinds of courses tend to be popular with undergrads, so focusing on enrollments might be a way to argue for putting the course in the CS department rather than letting those students go somewhere else. On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:41 AM Evan Koblentz via Members < members@lists.sigcis.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
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Dear Evan, In the spring I sent a description (copied below) of the online history graduate seminar I taught in the Computational Media department at UC Santa Cruz in 2020, within the School of Engineering. I may have sent it from the wrong email address in June, not sure it got through. The department there has rotated a number of historical seminars, including one by Ted Nelson. I can connect you with the founder of the department who might have some practiced arguments you can use for why history matters in CS. Starting fall of 2020, Andy van Dam at Brown and his former student and hypertext pioneer Norm Meyrowitz taught a course within CS that combined a very deep history of hypertext with practical hypertext programming; students created their own system as a final project. I personally tend to use other sciences as an example. Biology, physics, and chemistry all weave in the names and very brief accomplishments of scientists as part of normal courses. Lavoisier, Boyle, Krebs, Avogadro, Bunsen, why do I remember these names and sometimes a bit about them? Not from reading the history of science, but from high school and undergraduate science courses. CS curricula don’t do the equivalent, though apparently some used to decades ago (I recall Len Shustek saying Stanford did when he was a student). Best, Marc Marc Weber <https://computerhistory.org/profile/marc-weber/> (he/him) Curatorial Director, Internet History Program Computer History Museum, 1401 N Shoreline Blvd., Mountain View CA 94043 marc@webhistory.org | +1 415 282 6868 computerhistory.org/nethistory | Co-founder, Web History Center and Project
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From: Marc Weber <marcweber@att.net> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Homework assignment types for computer history survey course? Date: June 30, 2022 at 15:45:26 PDT To: "Koblentz, Evan A" <evan.koblentz@njit.edu> Cc: "members@SIGCIS.org" <members@sigcis.org>
Hi Evan,
Class sounds great, congratulations!
For a seminar I taught at UC Santa Cruz on the history of the online world the main assignments were biweekly readings, which we then discussed in class, and a final project. The “midterm” was a description of the proposed final project. The finals consisted of both a live presentation and the project itself, which could either be a paper or, for the technically or artistically minded, software or other digital content.
The seminar was in the Computational Media department, so students had a range of skills from modeling autonomous vehicles to game design. I don’t know if you can reasonably ask your CS students to do something different and potentially more technical than the others for a final project, but if so that might be something to consider.
Because Covid switched the seminar to Zoom, I could easily bring in more guest speakers than originally planned including Ted Nelson, Andy van Dam, and Paul Lindner of Gopher. I asked students to prepare questions for the speakers, whom they had also read some background on. If you have a decent screen in your classroom you might try bringing in a couple of remote guest speakers that way.
Best, Marc
On Jun 30, 2022, at 14:04, Nabeel Siddiqui <nasiddiqui@email.wm.edu <mailto:nasiddiqui@email.wm.edu>> wrote:
Hi Evan,
Congratulations on your first time working as an adjunct instructor. Seems like you taught a wonderful class!
In terms of the assignment, I don’t have any specific suggestions, but I would ask you to think about what you are hoping to accomplish in changing your assignments first before doing so. When advising faculty in our Center for Teaching and Learning, I usually ask faculty to go through a three prong process roughly based on backward-design:
1. What are the learning objectives of the course? 2. What assessments/assignments would allow a student to demonstrate that they are meeting those objectives? 3. What are the readings/skills you need to impart on the student to allow them to complete the assessment/assignment?
Without the learning objective, it isn’t really clear why you are changing your assignments. Why does a student viewing a class as an easy A matter? Ideally, a student should be able to easily demonstrate the learning objectives if proper pedagogical practices are followed. I would caution against viewing harsher grading as a way to motivate your students. Have you reached out to NJIT's Institute for Teaching Excellence? I am also happy to talk to you about syllabus design and assignments through email privately if you would prefer.
Sincerely, Nabeel
On Jun 30, 2022, at 2:41 PM, Christine Finn <christine.finn@gmail.com <mailto:christine.finn@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Evan,
For a decade, I taught Silicon Valley as a type of contemporary archaeology fieldwork at the University of Bristol, UK.
My first assignment each year was in the classroom, asking students to recall their personal tech history, ie what they used, what they discarded. It might sound a bit light, but it brought up some deep discussion, and you could set it as an essay.
That question is the basis of the long duree sequel to "Artifacts".
cheers,
Christine
Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries of London Author: Artifacts: an archaeologist's year in Silicon Valley (MIT Press)
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 at 20:14, Koblentz, Evan A <evan.koblentz@njit.edu <mailto:evan.koblentz@njit.edu>> wrote: This week I received my course evaluations from our spring semester. It was my first time working as an adjunct instructor. The student evaluations of my knowledge and teaching were great, the only exception being that everyone ranked the assignments as average, easy, or very easy.
The assignments were: - multiple choice quiz at the start of each class, to ensure the students read the homework chapters - midterm with 10 open-ended questions - final paper
For those who teach similar courses (survey of the history of computing), what kind of assignments do you give? Also what sort of in-class group projects do you assign? I'm looking for new ideas. There is some concern that CS students might take my course with the expectation of it being an easy A. (It's not, but still I think it needs to be more challenging for them.) _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org <http://sigcis.org/>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ <http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/> and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org <http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org>_______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org <http://sigcis.org/>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/ <http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/> and you can change your subscription options at http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org <http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org>
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On Feb 15, 2023, at 09:40, Evan Koblentz via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
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Hi Evan, In interactive computing, Stanford teaches a foundations and introduction to research class https://hcicourses.stanford.edu/cs347/2023/ (which I believe is in its current form from when Terry Winograd first offered it decades ago). UC Berkeley teaches a similar courses (COMPSCI260B, INFO290) in both our computer science dept and school of information. All of them are for engineering students looking to get involved in current research, so they are very applied and practical tours through the history of the field, but especially Stanford's class usually spends quite a long time on historical papers, Ivan Sutherland, Engelbart, etc. Best, Eric On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:40 AM Evan Koblentz via Members < members@lists.sigcis.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
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A course on the history of computing that I have been teaching for almost two decades at the informatics department of the University of Athens, Greece (the current president of ACM comes from this department) https://www.di.uoa.gr/en/studies/undergraduate/411¨ Hi everyone, I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent. The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college. It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank -- Aristotle Tympas Professor, National and Kapodistrian University of Athens Vice-Chair, Department of History and Philosophy of Science Director, Interdepartmental Graduate Program 'Science, Technology, Society / Science and Technology Studies (STS)' Webpage: http://scholar.uoa.gr/tympas/home Email: tympas@phs.uoa.gr Zoom: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86003468724?pwd=RzJxb2RYUmRrc2JIY2VlRkpjekJGZz09
Thank you to everyone who replied to my post from yesterday. I determined that at least five universities -- Yale, Cornell, Colorado/Boulder, Minnesota, and Athens -- all have history courses, not just special topics (as is my current course), as part of the catalogs in technical departments. I shared that list and the course links with my department administration. On 2/15/23 12:40 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities?
-- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
evank@njit.edu (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank
-- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank
Dear Evan, all, You can add a couple others to your list. Swansea University has had a course on the history of computing taught by my colleague John Tucker since 1994—it is now called Invention and Innovation in Computing<https://intranet.swan.ac.uk/catalogue/default.asp?type=moddetail&dept=any&mod=CSC309&ayr=23/24&psl=TB1+2&detailOnly=false> but covers a great deal of topics (I sat in on one lecture and enjoyed a lengthy discussion on Jacquard). Historical aspects are taught in a number of other modules throughout the department, for context of material, and to provide fodder for discussions of, e.g., ethics. Swansea has a research theme (not quite a research group… yet?) on Educational, Historical, and Philosophical Foundations<https://www.swansea.ac.uk/compsci/research-and-impact/educational-historical-philosophical-foundations/> of computing. This helped create our History of Computing collection<https://www.swansea.ac.uk/library/archive-and-research-collections/hocc/>, where I am currently sitting, which has a great deal of material. See also The Computer Revolution and Us: Computer Science at Swansea University from the 1960s.<https://collections.swansea.ac.uk/s/swansea-2020/page/computer-science> The second course you can add is the History of Digital Cultures<https://datanose.nl/Course/Manual/61441/History%20of%20Digital%20Cultures/2017> Master’s module taught jointly by University of Amsterdam (UvA) and Vrije Universiteit (VU). Danny Beckers now has control since Gerard Alberts retired. I worked as a TA on that for a few years—the link is for when I was still involved and a few things may have changed but it is still running. This attracts mostly CS and AI students, but a few from other programmes of study. As a general remark to the list, it would be nice to have a list somewhere of such courses! Best, Dr. Troy Kaighin Astarte (they/them / nhw) Lecturer, Computer Science / Darlithydd, Cyfrifiadureg Swansea University / Prifysgol Abertawe For students: my office hours are on the Intranet<https://fse-intranet.swan.ac.uk/intranet/staff_officehours?selected_staff_id=203842>. I fyfyrwyr: mae fy oriau swyddfa ar y fewnrwyd. Zoom office: https://swanseauniversity.zoom.us/my/t.k.astarte Supervision booking: https://doodle.com/bp/troyastarte/supervision Every email has a cost to the climate. Please think before sending short emails. Mae gan bob e-bost gost i’r hinsawdd. Meddyliwch cyn i chi anfon e-byst byr. On 16 Feb 2023, at 15:47, Evan Koblentz via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> wrote: Thank you to everyone who replied to my post from yesterday. I determined that at least five universities -- Yale, Cornell, Colorado/Boulder, Minnesota, and Athens -- all have history courses, not just special topics (as is my current course), as part of the catalogs in technical departments. I shared that list and the course links with my department administration. On 2/15/23 12:40 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote: Hi everyone, I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent. The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college. It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu> (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.njit.edu%2F~evank%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ct.k.astarte%40swansea.ac.uk%7Cc29d0b8115ce4329eb6b08db10355e60%7Cbbcab52e9fbe43d6a2f39f66c43df268%7C0%7C0%7C638121593617545517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=VgtP5vzR%2BmA%2F%2Fuo%2F4OKscvyS8MdkhDPbLTE%2BBKfnrUg%3D&reserved=0> -- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu> (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.njit.edu%2F~evank%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ct.k.astarte%40swansea.ac.uk%7Cc29d0b8115ce4329eb6b08db10355e60%7Cbbcab52e9fbe43d6a2f39f66c43df268%7C0%7C0%7C638121593617545517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=VgtP5vzR%2BmA%2F%2Fuo%2F4OKscvyS8MdkhDPbLTE%2BBKfnrUg%3D&reserved=0> _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. 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Carnegie Mellon University School of Computer Science offers a History of Computing Course: http://coursecatalog.web.cmu.edu/schools-colleges/schoolofcomputerscience/co... It does not appear to be special topics. From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of Troy Astarte via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> Date: Friday, February 17, 2023 at 06:48 To: Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> Cc: Tracy, Kim via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] History courses in CS departments CAUTION: This email originated from outside of CSUCI. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. Contact ITS if you have any concerns Dear Evan, all, You can add a couple others to your list. Swansea University has had a course on the history of computing taught by my colleague John Tucker since 1994—it is now called Invention and Innovation in Computing<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fintranet.swan.ac.uk%2Fcatalogue%2Fdefault.asp%3Ftype%3Dmoddetail%26dept%3Dany%26mod%3DCSC309%26ayr%3D23%2F24%26psl%3DTB1%2B2%26detailOnly%3Dfalse&data=05%7C01%7Ceric.kaltman%40csuci.edu%7Cf688717496cd4d3cb14b08db10f6017f%7Ce30f5bdb7f18435b84369d84aa7b96dd%7C1%7C0%7C638122421024527936%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=VJIWlWa9QGcwS1%2FFANbqEIkcFtL4R0o3qnpHJ48VSF4%3D&reserved=0> but covers a great deal of topics (I sat in on one lecture and enjoyed a lengthy discussion on Jacquard). Historical aspects are taught in a number of other modules throughout the department, for context of material, and to provide fodder for discussions of, e.g., ethics. Swansea has a research theme (not quite a research group… yet?) on Educational, Historical, and Philosophical Foundations<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.swansea.ac.uk%2Fcompsci%2Fresearch-and-impact%2Feducational-historical-philosophical-foundations%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ceric.kaltman%40csuci.edu%7Cf688717496cd4d3cb14b08db10f6017f%7Ce30f5bdb7f18435b84369d84aa7b96dd%7C1%7C0%7C638122421024527936%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=25Chq408H86caxyOZ4j6vlBlFZIVYqxeJbs24Ud1EJI%3D&reserved=0> of computing. This helped create our History of Computing collection<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.swansea.ac.uk%2Flibrary%2Farchive-and-research-collections%2Fhocc%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ceric.kaltman%40csuci.edu%7Cf688717496cd4d3cb14b08db10f6017f%7Ce30f5bdb7f18435b84369d84aa7b96dd%7C1%7C0%7C638122421024527936%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3XXu8OEiGsYD0XGtXEpkyGRh1TXQAsaHUIXI7tDgnBo%3D&reserved=0>, where I am currently sitting, which has a great deal of material. See also The Computer Revolution and Us: Computer Science at Swansea University from the 1960s.<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcollections.swansea.ac.uk%2Fs%2Fswansea-2020%2Fpage%2Fcomputer-science&data=05%7C01%7Ceric.kaltman%40csuci.edu%7Cf688717496cd4d3cb14b08db10f6017f%7Ce30f5bdb7f18435b84369d84aa7b96dd%7C1%7C0%7C638122421024527936%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=K%2BvE5jM%2B1zMLIkqc1WwEXLkG0gtXl7AL0zXpbXgW8C0%3D&reserved=0> The second course you can add is the History of Digital Cultures<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatanose.nl%2FCourse%2FManual%2F61441%2FHistory%2520of%2520Digital%2520Cultures%2F2017&data=05%7C01%7Ceric.kaltman%40csuci.edu%7Cf688717496cd4d3cb14b08db10f6017f%7Ce30f5bdb7f18435b84369d84aa7b96dd%7C1%7C0%7C638122421024527936%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=AXGOeflz8N82ybHWE9FOqRERJK0fmErwY45ZtpfDz2o%3D&reserved=0> Master’s module taught jointly by University of Amsterdam (UvA) and Vrije Universiteit (VU). Danny Beckers now has control since Gerard Alberts retired. I worked as a TA on that for a few years—the link is for when I was still involved and a few things may have changed but it is still running. This attracts mostly CS and AI students, but a few from other programmes of study. As a general remark to the list, it would be nice to have a list somewhere of such courses! Best, Dr. Troy Kaighin Astarte (they/them / nhw) Lecturer, Computer Science / Darlithydd, Cyfrifiadureg Swansea University / Prifysgol Abertawe For students: my office hours are on the Intranet<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffse-intranet.swan.ac.uk%2Fintranet%2Fstaff_officehours%3Fselected_staff_id%3D203842&data=05%7C01%7Ceric.kaltman%40csuci.edu%7Cf688717496cd4d3cb14b08db10f6017f%7Ce30f5bdb7f18435b84369d84aa7b96dd%7C1%7C0%7C638122421024527936%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=zqeGE5SOeGpEYA59%2FQPBhyPBvZBYNvxeam0Mc0rTp8Q%3D&reserved=0>. I fyfyrwyr: mae fy oriau swyddfa ar y fewnrwyd. Zoom office: https://swanseauniversity.zoom.us/my/t.k.astarte Supervision booking: https://doodle.com/bp/troyastarte/supervision<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoodle.com%2Fbp%2Ftroyastarte%2Fsupervision&data=05%7C01%7Ceric.kaltman%40csuci.edu%7Cf688717496cd4d3cb14b08db10f6017f%7Ce30f5bdb7f18435b84369d84aa7b96dd%7C1%7C0%7C638122421024527936%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=oNPzN19VTEZOib960U1y6MHbYxzulWbTto2EYmSQHqw%3D&reserved=0> Every email has a cost to the climate. Please think before sending short emails. Mae gan bob e-bost gost i’r hinsawdd. Meddyliwch cyn i chi anfon e-byst byr. On 16 Feb 2023, at 15:47, Evan Koblentz via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> wrote: Thank you to everyone who replied to my post from yesterday. I determined that at least five universities -- Yale, Cornell, Colorado/Boulder, Minnesota, and Athens -- all have history courses, not just special topics (as is my current course), as part of the catalogs in technical departments. I shared that list and the course links with my department administration. On 2/15/23 12:40 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote: Hi everyone, I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent. The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college. It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu> (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.njit.edu%2F~evank%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ceric.kaltman%40csuci.edu%7Cf688717496cd4d3cb14b08db10f6017f%7Ce30f5bdb7f18435b84369d84aa7b96dd%7C1%7C0%7C638122421024684179%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9F1SxUAlgxzgovIAiShPxp47Oq4JZPRrRy2exT4T680%3D&reserved=0> -- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu> (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.njit.edu%2F~evank%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ceric.kaltman%40csuci.edu%7Cf688717496cd4d3cb14b08db10f6017f%7Ce30f5bdb7f18435b84369d84aa7b96dd%7C1%7C0%7C638122421024684179%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9F1SxUAlgxzgovIAiShPxp47Oq4JZPRrRy2exT4T680%3D&reserved=0> _______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. 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I've been asked by colleagues to narrow down the list to US schools, and again only to those with a specific history-of-computing course. Many schools offer courses that overlap into computer history, but as I see it, the direct ones are Carnegie Mellon, Colorado/Boulder, Cornell, Minnesota, and Yale. I've made my best case to our administration, and hopefully NJIT can join the list soon. - On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 10:47 AM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
Thank you to everyone who replied to my post from yesterday.
I determined that at least five universities -- Yale, Cornell, Colorado/Boulder, Minnesota, and Athens -- all have history courses, not just special topics (as is my current course), as part of the catalogs in technical departments. I shared that list and the course links with my department administration.
On 2/15/23 12:40 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
evank@njit.edu (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank
-- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
evank@njit.edu (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank
Hi Evan and everyone, Your message and the subsequent replies brought to mind what Thomas Kuhn wrote back in 1962 in The Structure of Scientific Revolutions: “Scientific education makes use of no equivalent for the art museum or the library of classics, and the result is a sometimes drastic distortion in the scientist’s perception of his discipline’s past.” (p. 166 in my 1967 edition) Two pages earlier Kuhn wrote: “Why, after all, should the student of physics, for example, read the works of Newton, Faraday, Einstein, or Schrödinger, when everything he needs to know about these works is recapitulated in a far briefer, more precise, and more systematic form in a number of up-to-date textbooks?” Thus many CS departments are holding true to a Kuhnian form in branching over history in their courses, something abetted by most textbooks. I hope the evidence of successful CS courses on computer history provided by others on the list helps you in making your course permanent. This would be a welcomed correction to the current CS pedagogical paradigm. Cheers, Dana A. Freiburger, Ph.D. Madison, Wisconsin U.S.A. https://dafreiburger.org/ From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> On Behalf Of Evan Koblentz via Members Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 11:40 AM To: members@lists.sigcis.org Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] History courses in CS departments Hi everyone, I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent. The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college. It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu<mailto:evank@njit.edu> (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank<https://web.njit.edu/~evank/>
My course is permanent now! Our CS faculty voted in favor of it today. The department chairman called me with the good news and said there were only two 'no' votes. It's going to be CS-210. I hoped for 300 level, but I'll take it. Now that it's no longer a special topics course starting this fall, I will post a syllabus at https://web.njit.edu/~evank/. The many replies to my original post on this list, both on/off-list, were very helpful. Thank you again to everyone who posted constructively. On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:40 PM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
evank@njit.edu (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank
Evan Congratulations. Excellent news. Many have long lamented the absence of history of computing on university curricula. Perhaps there is an analogy with horticulture – perennial (enduringly renewing) compared to annual (ephemeral). Good to have the course consolidated. Encourages cumulative growth. I was struck by your use of ‘correctives’ in your Why History? Link. I used the same device in my recently published book The History of Computing: A very Short Introduction (OUP August 2022) using examples of how received perceptions became entrenched in established accounts https://academic.oup.com/book/43867. The book asks, What tale do we tell? And Why do we tell it the way we do? It is a canonical account of computer history in 35,000 words from pebbles to smartphones critically examining how and why we constructed the narrative the way we did and how the tropes of popular history influenced the received account. An aerial view of the field, that resonates with what I imagine to be part of your motivation for your course. All best Doron Doron Swade Chair, Computer Conservation Society From: Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> On Behalf Of Koblentz, Evan via Members Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 2:34 AM To: members@lists.sigcis.org Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Good news! Re: History courses in CS departments My course is permanent now! Our CS faculty voted in favor of it today. The department chairman called me with the good news and said there were only two 'no' votes. It's going to be CS-210. I hoped for 300 level, but I'll take it. Now that it's no longer a special topics course starting this fall, I will post a syllabus at https://web.njit.edu/~evank/. The many replies to my original post on this list, both on/off-list, were very helpful. Thank you again to everyone who posted constructively. On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:40 PM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu <mailto:evank@njit.edu> > wrote: Hi everyone, I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent. The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college. It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities? -- Evan Koblentz New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu <mailto:evank@njit.edu> (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank <https://web.njit.edu/~evank/>
Doron, thank you! I will be sure to read your book. I enjoyed Cogwheel Brain. On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 7:28 AM Doron Swade <d.swade@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Evan
Congratulations. Excellent news. Many have long lamented the absence of history of computing on university curricula. Perhaps there is an analogy with horticulture – perennial (enduringly renewing) compared to annual (ephemeral). Good to have the course consolidated. Encourages cumulative growth.
I was struck by your use of ‘correctives’ in your Why History? Link. I used the same device in my recently published book *The History of Computing: A very Short Introduction* (OUP August 2022) using examples of how received perceptions became entrenched in established accounts https://academic.oup.com/book/43867.
The book asks, What tale do we tell? And Why do we tell it the way we do? It is a canonical account of computer history in 35,000 words from pebbles to smartphones critically examining how and why we constructed the narrative the way we did and how the tropes of popular history influenced the received account. An aerial view of the field, that resonates with what I imagine to be part of your motivation for your course.
All best
Doron
Doron Swade
Chair, Computer Conservation Society
*From:* Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> *On Behalf Of *Koblentz, Evan via Members *Sent:* Thursday, March 2, 2023 2:34 AM *To:* members@lists.sigcis.org *Subject:* [SIGCIS-Members] Good news! Re: History courses in CS departments
My course is permanent now! Our CS faculty voted in favor of it today. The department chairman called me with the good news and said there were only two 'no' votes. It's going to be CS-210. I hoped for 300 level, but I'll take it.
Now that it's no longer a special topics course starting this fall, I will post a syllabus at https://web.njit.edu/~evank/.
The many replies to my original post on this list, both on/off-list, were very helpful. Thank you again to everyone who posted constructively.
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:40 PM Evan Koblentz <evank@njit.edu> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.
The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our humanities college.
It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities?
-- Evan Koblentz
New Jersey Institute of Technology - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club
evank@njit.edu (973) 596-3065 https://web.njit.edu/~evank
-- *Evan Koblentz* - Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications - Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing - Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club evank@njit.edu <evan.a.koblentz@njit.edu> (973) 596-3065 <9735963065> https://web.njit.edu/~evank/
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