Brian,

The memo is definitely authentic (see copy of it--attached, courtesy of IBM Archives).

As to Seymour's 'reply,' I fear it is from the book "A Few Good Men From Univac, David Lundstrom, viz. p. 135 on which Lundstrom says:

"One of the funniest documents in my collection of computer
memorabilia is an internal IBM memo, which surfaced during the discovery
phase of the various IBM lawsuits (figure 12). T. J. Watson, Jr., questions
with acerbity just why such a small low-budget operation as the Chippewa
Lab developed the fastest computer in the world, while IBM's vast research
establishment cannot.  I believe that Seymour would say that Mr. Watson
answered his own question."

 
(Thanks to my colleague curator Alex Bochannek for locating this reference)

Mea culpa!  I have attributed this quote to Seymour myself (http://drdobbs.com/184404102).

I stand corrected!

Thanks Brian,

Best

Dag




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Hi:

I've been trying to trace the origins of the oft-repeated pair of
quotations:

"Last week, Control Data ... announced the 6600 system. I understand
that in the laboratory developing the system there are only 34 people
including the janitor. Of these, 14 are engineers and 4 are
programmers... Contrasting this modest effort with our vast development
activities, I fail to understand why we have lost our industry
leadership position by letting someone else offer the world's most
powerful computer."
- Thomas J Watson Jr

"It seems like Mr. Watson has answered his own question." -- Seymour
Cray's response to Thomas Watson.

which I'd assumed were both apocryphal. In fact I find that Watson gives
the first quotation himself in his book "Father, Son and Co: My Life at
IBM and Beyond", saying that it was in a memo that he wrote to his "top
men" on August 28, 1963.

However, I've not been able to authenticate alleged Seymour Cray's
alleged response - which I fear is too good to be true.

Can anyone in fact validate it?

Cheers

Brian Randell


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