<html aria-label="message body"><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Likewise<div>CHH<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Apr 10, 2026, at 4:09 PM, Ceruzzi, Paul via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I also strongly agree with Len.</div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Paul Ceruzzi</div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://substack.com/@paulceruzzi">https://substack.com/@paulceruzzi</a></div><div id="appendonsend" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;"></span><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Members <<a href="mailto:members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org">members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org</a>> on behalf of Brian Randell via Members <<a href="mailto:members@lists.sigcis.org">members@lists.sigcis.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, April 9, 2026 5:52 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Evan Koblentz <<a href="mailto:evank@njit.edu">evank@njit.edu</a>>; Len Shustek <<a href="mailto:len@shustek.com">len@shustek.com</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:members@sigcis.org">members@sigcis.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:members@sigcis.org">members@sigcis.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Possible coordination re AHA Call for papers</font><div> </div></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; line-height: 12pt; background: rgb(255, 235, 156);"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(156, 101, 0);">External Email - Exercise Caution</span></b></div><div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Hi:</div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I also strongly agree with Len.</div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Brian Randell</div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div id="x_ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><div>-- </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; direction: ltr; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9pt;">School of Computing, Newcastle University, 1 Science Square, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE4 5TG</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9pt;">EMAIL =<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 120, 212);"><a href="mailto:Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk" title="mailto:Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk" data-outlook-id="09546fcc-7315-4d38-8443-02fdca3fdad3" style="color: rgb(0, 120, 212); margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk</a></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9pt;"> PHONE =<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 120, 212);"><a href="tel:+447867805578" data-outlook-id="8e1764ac-b921-4574-85b0-679522a5691e" style="color: rgb(0, 120, 212); margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">+44 (0)786 7805578</a></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9pt;">URL = </span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 120, 212);"><a href="https://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/staff/profile/brianrandell.html" originalsrc="https://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/staff/profile/brianrandell.html" title="https://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/staff/profile/brianrandell.html" data-outlook-id="5b5833b0-a5cc-4d94-afb1-a14b4c8d18ca" style="color: rgb(0, 120, 212); margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">https://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/staff/profile/brianrandell.html</a></span></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><br></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><br></div></div><div id="x_mail-editor-reference-message-container"><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;"></div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="text-align: left; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentcolor currentcolor; font-family: Aptos; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Members <<a href="mailto:members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org">members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org</a>> on behalf of Evan Koblentz via Members <<a href="mailto:members@lists.sigcis.org">members@lists.sigcis.org</a>><br><b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday, 8 April 2026 at 23:24<br><b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Len Shustek <<a href="mailto:len@shustek.com">len@shustek.com</a>>,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:members@sigcis.org">members@sigcis.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:members@sigcis.org">members@sigcis.org</a>><br><b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Possible coordination re AHA Call for papers</div><div id="x_mail-editor-reference-message-container" dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;">It's plausible to examine the impact of computing on this part of history.</div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;"><br></div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;">And as a (sane) American Jew, I hate what my country and Israel are doing right now.</div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;"><br></div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;">But I strongly agree with Len that our sig an an entity should STAY OUT of the whole deal.</div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;"><br></div><div id="x_composer_signature" dir="auto">----<div style="direction: ltr;">Evan Koblentz<br><br>- Senior Writer, Office of Communications and Marketing</div><div style="direction: ltr;">- Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing</div><div style="direction: ltr;">- Advisor, NJIT Lego Club<br><br><a href="mailto:evank@njit.edu" data-outlook-id="202bf65f-2745-47f2-9bd5-58540b6de7c6">evank@njit.edu</a><br><a href="tel:(973) 596-3065" data-outlook-id="26db208a-27b5-499e-b6a9-a5609060b2a2">(973) 596-3065</a></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><a href="https://web.njit.edu/~evank">https://web.njit.edu/~evank</a></div></div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;"><br></div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;"><br></div><div align="left"><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;">-------- Original message --------</div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;">From: Len Shustek via Members <<a href="mailto:members@lists.sigcis.org">members@lists.sigcis.org</a>></div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;">Date: 4/8/26 5:03 PM (GMT-05:00)</div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:members@sigcis.org">members@sigcis.org</a></div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;">Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Possible coordination re AHA Call for papers</div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing" style="direction: ltr;"><br></div></div><div class="x_ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message x_skipProofing">This is a terrible idea. The issue is complicated and has nothing to do with the SIGCIS mission.<br>If SIGCIS as an organization writes such a letter you will lose some longtime members, including me.<br><br>Would you next release statements about the situation in Sudan? Congo? Myanmar? Ukraine? Bangladesh? Uyghur China? There is no shortage of terrible things happening all over the world.<br><br>Len Shustek<br><br><br>At 07:30 PM 3/30/2026, Alexander Monea via Members wrote:</div><blockquote><div class="x_cite">Hi All,<br><br>I'd also like to support the statement that Theodora proposes and would be happy to assist her and Cass and anyone else in drafting it.<br><br>Best,<br>Alex<br><br></div><hr><div class="x_cite"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><b>From:</b> Members <<a href="mailto:members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org">members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org</a>> on behalf of Cassius Adair via Members <<a href="mailto:members@lists.sigcis.org">members@lists.sigcis.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 30, 2026 10:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> Theodora J Dryer <<a href="mailto:theodora.dryer@nyu.edu">theodora.dryer@nyu.edu</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:members@sigcis.org">members@sigcis.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:members@sigcis.org">members@sigcis.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Possible coordination re AHA Call for papers</span><br><br>I am in support of the statement that Theodora proposes here, and would be happy to help draft such an anti-war statement through the lens of computer history.<br><br>On Mon, Mar 30, 2026 at 7:01 PM Theodora J Dryer via Members <<a href="mailto:members@lists.sigcis.org" data-outlook-id="4312f93d-ae1d-4966-a692-10273176bf17">members@lists.sigcis.org</a> > wrote:</div><dl><dd><div class="x_cite">...</div></dd><dd><div class="x_cite">Speaking of our role in history. What do you all think about SIGCIS finally drafting a statement against the ongoing genocide in Palestine and now the US-Israeli imperial war on Iran?<br><br></div></dd><dd><div class="x_cite">Given that we are witnesses to these atrocities, and scholars of how the military machinery works, I believe together we can write a powerful and lasting statement as computing historians.<br><br></div></dd><dd><div class="x_cite">Thank you,</div></dd><dd><div class="x_cite">Theodora</div></dd></dl></blockquote></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">This email is relayed from members at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://sigcis.org/" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">sigcis.org</a><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. 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