<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Eric,<div><br></div><div>It’s good that you’re going to stop them from being immediately recycled. About 10 years ago I decided to “go digital” with respect to the publications I had going back to 1972, and ACM took back a good number to fill out gaps in their archive — I think they’d like to hold two copies of every item. The Computer History Museum also took some, and Paul Allen’s short-lived museum took the rest (I wonder where they are now). So if you can make an inventory, then check with the appropriate publishers, you’re likely to get some uptake. I’m happy to talk off-list.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Paul McJones<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 30, 2025, at 3:01 PM, Eric Kaltman via Members <members@lists.sigcis.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Thanks Brian! I'll head over on Monday and grab as many as I can, or see if CS will hold them. I don't have capacity for scanning / digitization right now but at least I can stop them from getting recycled. </div><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 3:52 PM Brian E Carpenter <<a href="mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com">brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">It isn't just proceedings. I've come across two cases recently where significant text was missing from IEEE Explore - once in the Annals and once in IEEE Network magazine. Certainly, finding full proceedings of old conferences is often impossible.<br><br>Regards<br> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Brian Carpenter<br><br>On 31-May-25 08:42, Eric Kaltman via Members wrote:<br>> Greetings all,<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> The CS department at UAlberta is moving buildings and clearing out a lot of older texts. I found out rather late and am looking through their discards. I'm wondering if anyone can confirm / affirm that major conference proceedings are generally available? I'm looking at a near complete stack of proceedings (ACM SIGMOD, VLDB, etc.) and it appears that the official scans are missing front matter and such in some cases.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Just wanted to get any thoughts on whether I should have any concern about the proceedings or try to keep them somewhere.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Best,<br>> Eric<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> --<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Dr. Eric Kaltman, Assistant Professor<br>> Software History Futures and Technologies (SHFT) Group<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.shft.group/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.shft.group</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="https://www.shft.group/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.shft.group</a>><br>> Media and Technology Studies / History<br>> University of Alberta<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> This email is relayed from members at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://sigcis.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sigcis.org</a>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. 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