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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I would echo what Evan said—our students here at Rose-Hulman also thought my Software History course would be easy (but it’s not so easy). Now, it’s getting a good reputation and students keep asking me
when it will be taught again. It’s become a popular CS computing elective. It’s currently taught as a computing elective and contains a fair amount of technical content, mostly based on the work I did for my textbook on the topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 2:34 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>members@lists.sigcis.org <members@lists.sigcis.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [SIGCIS-Members] History courses in CS departments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Our students started taking it partially because they thought it would be "easy" and partially because the ACM chapter leaders knew me (through my daytime job here, as a writer in the university communications office), so they recommended the course to their
peers. Now it's in the third semester and the course has been very popular. For the current semester, the course is full at 43 students, and there were two dozen on the waiting list.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On 2/15/23 1:44 PM, Len Shustek via Members wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I am currently teaching a short course in the history of computing at Stanford, but in the "Continuing Studies" (adult education) department.<br>
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I had previously pitched it to both the EE and CS departments. My conclusion after those discussions was that the faculty would be interested but, sadly, it was unlikely that the students would be. They are too focused on creating the next unicorn to be bothered
with history.<br>
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Len Shustek<br>
Founding Chairman Emeritus<br>
Computer History Museum<br>
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At 09:40 AM 2/15/2023, Evan Koblentz via Members wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi everyone,<br>
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I've been teaching a special topics course in computer history for three semesters here at NJIT. The university policy is three semesters maximum, then the course must be made permanent or cancelled. So I'm going through the process of trying to make it permanent.<br>
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The department administration supports it, but it has to be voted on by the rank-and-file faculty, many of whom don't seem to understand the value of a history course -- or at least not of a history course in a technical department, rather than through our
humanities college.<br>
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It would help if I can show them other examples. Can anyone point me existing examples of history courses in CS, EE, or other technical departments at U.S. universities?<br>
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Evan Koblentz <br>
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New Jersey Institute of Technology<br>
- Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications<br>
- Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing<br>
- Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club<br>
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Evan Koblentz <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p>New Jersey Institute of Technology<br>
- Senior Writer, Office of Strategic Communications<br>
- Adjunct Instructor, Ying Wu College of Computing<br>
- Faculty/Staff Advisor, NJIT Lego Club<o:p></o:p></p>
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