<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div><span style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;" data-mce-style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;">Thanks a lot, Jim.</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;" data-mce-style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;">Happy Holidays and best wishes from Paris!</span></div><div><span style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;" data-mce-style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;">Pierre</span><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>De: </b>"James Cortada" <jcortada@umn.edu><br><b>À: </b>"Pierre Mounier-Kuhn" <mounier@msh-paris.fr><br><b>Cc: </b>"Bernard Dionysius Geoghegan" <bernardgeoghegan2010@u.northwestern.edu>, "David Foster" <davidfos@ttu.edu>, "Foster, David via Members" <members@lists.sigcis.org><br><b>Envoyé: </b>Samedi 24 Décembre 2022 13:51:55<br><b>Objet: </b>Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Seeking Information on Adding Machines, Mechanical Calculators, etc. Designed and Used in the U.S. Prior to 1877<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div dir="ltr">Pierre, Happy Holidays friend! Her article is a chapter in a book published in 2016. Description: <a href="https://brill.com/display/book/9789004324930/B9789004324930_006.xml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://brill.com/display/book/9789004324930/B9789004324930_006.xml</a><br><div>I suggest you go to Google Scholar, too, because she has written several related articles that might be of interest to you, some of which you can download and were published by the IEEE Annals of the History of Computing.</div><br><div>Jim</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 6:27 AM Pierre Mounier-Kuhn via Members <<a href="mailto:members@lists.sigcis.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">members@lists.sigcis.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 )"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'times new roman' , 'new york' , 'times' , serif">Thanks, Bernard, for thus duly blowing Peggy's trumpet! </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:'times new roman' , 'new york' , 'times' , serif;font-size:12pt">I would love to read her essay “<span style="color:black"><em>Mathematical Instruments Changing Hands at World’s Fairs, 1851–1904</em><b>”, </b>whose title promises stimulating dialogues with my own paper. </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'times new roman' , 'new york' , 'times' , serif"> Is it accessible online?<br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'times new roman' , 'new york' , 'times' , serif">Best wishes and merry Christmas to all.<br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'times new roman' , 'new york' , 'times' , serif">Pierre Mounier-Kuhn</span></p></div><br><hr id="m_1171547409978589957zwchr"><div><b>De: </b>"Bernard Dionysius Geoghegan" <<a href="mailto:bernardgeoghegan2010@u.northwestern.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">bernardgeoghegan2010@u.northwestern.edu</a>><br><b>À: </b>"Peggy Kidwell" <<a href="mailto:kidwellp@si.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">kidwellp@si.edu</a>>, "Foster, David via Members" <<a href="mailto:members@lists.sigcis.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">members@lists.sigcis.org</a>>, "Pierre Mounier-Kuhn" <<a href="mailto:mounier@msh-paris.fr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">mounier@msh-paris.fr</a>>, "David Foster" <<a href="mailto:davidfos@ttu.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">davidfos@ttu.edu</a>><br><b>Envoyé: </b>Samedi 24 Décembre 2022 09:03:01<br><b>Objet: </b>Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Seeking Information on Adding Machines, Mechanical Calculators, etc. Designed and Used in the U.S. Prior to 1877<br></div><br><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All, </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since Peggy didn’t mention it, I will: Her essay
<span style="font-size:12pt">“</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'georgia' , serif;color:black">Mathematical Instruments Changing Hands at World’s Fairs, 1851–1904<b>”
</b></span><span style="font-size:12pt">is a great and highly relevant, too!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Best, Bernard
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, 23 December 2022 at 23:26<br>
<b>To: </b>Foster, David via Members <<a href="mailto:members@lists.sigcis.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">members@lists.sigcis.org</a>>, Pierre Mounier-Kuhn <<a href="mailto:mounier@msh-paris.fr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">mounier@msh-paris.fr</a>>, Foster, David <<a href="mailto:davidfos@ttu.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">davidfos@ttu.edu</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'inherit' , serif">You might also wish to check out the “web object groups” on adding machines, calculating machines, and adders on the web page of the Smithsonian’sNational Museum of American History. In addition
to a general introduction and a list of resources, there are descriptions of individual types of machine. Within each section, the machines are arranged chronologically. Be sure to click on the title of an object to bring up more information. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'inherit' , serif">Good luck!</span></p>
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<p style="line-height:12pt;background:rgb( 255 , 235 , 156 )"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb( 156 , 101 , 0 )" lang="EN-US">External Email - Exercise Caution</span></b><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Thank you, sir! I just downloaded your paper.</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">I will follow up! Greatly appreciated.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">From:
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:36<br>
<b>To: </b>Foster, David <<a href="mailto:davidfos@ttu.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">davidfos@ttu.edu</a>><br>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">Hello Dave.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">I am very interested in this topic. Recently I attempted to sketch an economic history of this nascent industrial sector, with this exploratory paper
written from a European point of view:</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">I would be glad to discuss the matter with you and other connoisseurs within SIGCIS. Certainly de Colmar’s Arithmometre made its way across the Atlantic,
both as direct exports from the Paris workshop or as later clones (Burckhardt, Saxonia through Carl Reuter, etc.). That it "inspired some emulation or other ideas" is obvious, if only with the very name of Felt's "Comptometer". Toward 1900, some 15 companies
in Europe were making and marketing Arithmometre clones, so it would be surprising not to find similar ventures in America, along with makers of more modern designs.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">Happy Holidays & New Year to all!</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<b>Envoyé: </b>Vendredi 23 Décembre 2022 18:48:52<br>
<b>Objet: </b>[SIGCIS-Members] Seeking Information on Adding Machines, Mechanical Calculators, etc. Designed and Used in the U.S. Prior to 1877</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">I have the opportunity to do a research paper for a Spring term historiography course and I’d like to depart from the themes of the assigned readings and return to research in the realm of computing
history. Given the chronological constraint of 1877 as the upper year, I can get just a bit into the beginning timeframe of James Cortada’s
<i>Before the Computer</i> and had been thinking that devices like de Colmar’s Arithmometre (1820) must have made their way across the Atlantic and inspired some emulation or other ideas. The good people at the reference section of the LOC have given me some
useful background and I’ve rec’d some valuable tips on patent search and organization methodologies. I have just started to search the patent history (calculators, adding machines, etc.), but any advice or insights on 19<sup>th</sup> century American “computing”
from the group are greatly appreciated.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Happy Holidays & New Year!</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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