<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div>This reminds me of some stories I’ve heard from peace corps volunteers about the beliefs of some people that they lived with. I guess when it comes to things that they don’t understand, people throughout history have been shown to be very vulnerable to the power of suggestion.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>-Mike Willegal</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 12, 2021, at 11:52 AM, <<a href="mailto:thomas.haigh@gmail.com" class="">thomas.haigh@gmail.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:thomas.haigh@gmail.com" class="">thomas.haigh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" class=""><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)" class=""><style class=""><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal">Hello SIGCIS,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">As the eyes of the world turn towards my own region of SE Wisconsin for the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse (the cosplaying militia wannabe teen who shot and killed two unarmed demonstrators in Kenosha last summer) we get a glimpse of how deeply suspicion of algorithms has permeated general awareness and of how little they are sometimes understood.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">According to this article from The Verge: <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/10/22775580/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-judge-apple-ai-pinch-to-zoom-footage-manipulation-claim" class="">https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/10/22775580/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-judge-apple-ai-pinch-to-zoom-footage-manipulation-claim</a> the defense yesterday made a successful argument to the judge that the zoom feature on an iPad video showing the killings should not be used in court on the grounds that it involved artificial intelligence and “logarithms.” Yes, LOGARITHMS. The things some of you may remember looking up in tables to add together to find approximate answers when multiplying large numbers.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">“iPads, which are made by Apple, have artificial intelligence in them that allow things to be viewed through three-dimensions and logarithms,” the defense insisted. “It uses artificial intelligence, or their logarithms, to create what they believe is happening. So this isn’t actually enhanced video, this is Apple’s iPad programming creating what it thinks is there, not what necessarily is there,” they added.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><div class="MsoNormal">According to the story, the judge deferred to this argument:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Judge Schroeder argued that it was the prosecution — not the defense — that had the burden of proving that Apple <i class="">doesn’t</i> use artificial intelligence to manipulate footage, demanding that they provide an expert to testify, and didn’t allow the prosecution to adjourn to find that expert before bringing Rittenhouse up for cross-examination. <o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><div class="MsoNormal">Meanwhile, I stumbled on a nice analysis of the extent to which the word “algorithm” is understood my many to imply some connection to machine learning in this short article by Kristian Lum and Rumman Chowdhury: <a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/02/26/1020007/what-is-an-algorithm/" class="">https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/02/26/1020007/what-is-an-algorithm/</a>. <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Can it be long until we see products sold as “algorithm free”? Or, possible, “logarithm free.” <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Tom<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">This email is relayed from members at <a href="http://sigcis.org" class="">sigcis.org</a>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at <a href="http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/" class="">http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/</a> and you can change your subscription options at <a href="http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org" class="">http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>