<div dir="ltr"><div>Of possible help, this chapter I wrote on floppy disks for the Routledge Companion to Obsolescent Media. Available here:<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://hcommons.org/deposits/item/hc:27175/">https://hcommons.org/deposits/item/hc:27175/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Opens with the much circulated bit of lore about Minuteman missile crews still relying on them for launch codes.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 3:54 PM Marc Weber <<a href="mailto:marc@webhistory.org">marc@webhistory.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Not quite current but close – two years ago the U.S. Navy finally phased them out on nuclear submarines: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/nuclear-weapons-floppy-disks.html" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/nuclear-weapons-floppy-disks.html</a><div>Best, Marc</div><div><br><div>
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There are plenty of us who have old files on floppy disks. I have a USB-connected floppy drive handy to read these if and when I want to.</div>
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Some old Boeing 747s still use floppies:</div>
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There are probably other dedicated real-time security and control systems in low-tech settings that still use floppies.<br>
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Hobbyists and old-gear aficionados, including nostalgic gamers, still use them. (I have an old Windows 7 computer, with floppy drive, disconnected from the Internet, which I use just for computer programming.)</div>
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<div>today, I got a request by a German journalist asking about current uses of floppy disks. Are they still is use somewhere? Are there still users, for example power plants, airlines, banks or so who are using floppy disks? If so, why do they do
 that? I am sure that you can address this question, that was forwarded to me by Daniela Zetti, way better than I could. My first thought were computer hobbyists who are working with old computers and presenting them at Vintage Computing Festivals – cool stuff,
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