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After my retirement I donated my books and papers to a number of libraries and archives -- most of which are closed right now.  I will have to rely on my memory, which was never that good anyway. So with that caveat...</div>
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A crucial step toward real-time digital computation was initiated by Perry O. Crawford, and described in his Masters' Thesis at MIT. There is a Wikipedia entry on Crawford, which appears to look right, although I can't check. I met Crawford and discussed this
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The best analysis of Crawford's role was done by Bernard O. Williams, in his PhD dissertation at the University of Kansas, "Computing with Electricity 1935-1945" (Univ. Kansas 1984). It is a shame that the dissertation was never published, but it is available
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 24, 2021 3:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Guy Fedorkow <guy.fedorkow@gmail.com><br>
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<div class="" style="word-wrap:break-word; line-break:after-white-space">Guy, seconding Pierre’s good response and adding that in 1951, analog computers were still far faster than digital for most complex calculations, because they are inherently parallel processors.
 Digital machines were also prone to *very* frequent failure. Most sensors were analog, too, providing no numerical readouts. Few control engineers would have even considered a digital computer for any real-time application until the second half of that decade,
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<div class="" style="margin:0px"><font face="Helvetica" color="#000000" class="" style="font-stretch:normal; line-height:normal">Everett, Robert R., Charles A. Zraket, and Herbert D. Benington. “Sage: A Data-Processing System for Air Defense.” Proceedings of
 the Eastern Joint Computer Conference (1957): 339–45.</font></div>
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<div class="" style="margin:0px"><font face="Helvetica" color="#000000" class="" style="font-stretch:normal; line-height:normal">Redmond, Kent C. and Thomas M. Smith. Project Whirlwind: The History of a Pioneer Computer. Boston: Digital Press, 1980.</font></div>
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<div class="">On Apr 23, 2021, at 16:41, Guy Fedorkow <<a href="mailto:guy.fedorkow@gmail.com" class="">guy.fedorkow@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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  I've been working on restoring a 1951 Whirlwind program, written at MIT, used to demonstrate real-time tracking of aircraft with radar for the purposes of guiding an interception (the Cold War was in full flight in the 1950's).  This work ultimately led to
 the massive SAGE air defense network in the US.<br class="">
  You can see some rather informal preliminary notes on the work at<br class="">
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  The program does work in simulation; you can see a four-minute video of the simulator running an intercept at<br class="">
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  Spoiler alerts: The original really did display moving dots on a CRT, but the graphics are "spartan" to say the least.  And nothing in particular happens when the intercept actually happens.<br class="">
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  Would anyone know of contemporaneous work involving digital computers for either radar tracking or real-time computing around 1951?  I think all the familiar digital computers from those years were used in applications where batch operation was perfectly
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  Innovations like this rarely occur in a complete vacuum, but I don't see references to any similar digital computing projects.<br class="">
  If anyone has pointers, do let me know!<br class="">
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<div class="">University of Michigan</div>
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