<div dir="ltr">Hi All, <div>I'd just add in the vein of Brian's and Sam's suggestions that Brian Rotman's work (especially <a href="https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=415">Mathematics as Sign</a>) carves out a position distinct from formalism, intuitionism, and Platonism, which he calls the "semiotic" account of mathematics, and which is explicitly about "scratching notes on paper" and other material practices of doing math. If people know of follow-up work to his, I would be very interested, I have found him very compelling to read. </div><div>Best, </div><div>Leif</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:10 AM Sam Kellogg <<a href="mailto:samkellogg@gmail.com">samkellogg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)">Hello David,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)">I highly recommend Juliette Kennedy's work on mathematical drawing on this point—this essay in particular discusses drafting, scratch notes, drawing at the blackboard, etc.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)">Kennedy, Juliette. “Notes on the Syntax and Semantics Distinction, or Three Moments in the Life of the Mathematical Drawing.” In What Is a Mathematical Concept?, edited by Alf Coles, Elizabeth de Freitas, and Nathalie Sinclair, 55–75. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 2017. <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.cambridge.org_core_books_what-2Dis-2Da-2Dmathematical-2Dconcept_notes-2Don-2Dthe-2Dsyntax-2Dand-2Dsemantics-2Ddistinction-2Dor-2Dthree-2Dmoments-2Din-2Dthe-2Dlife-2Dof-2Dthe-2Dmathematical-2Ddrawing_95FC242F34EBC88DC3D6749A2E4A6F31&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=bMQrB1JqPGH3QuzFgKxGwWv8_wlytMz_q_xKdjxXCE0&m=al_Rx7gVpZratUSSzCRMtEW8wkj9M8QRpJi-HdR4YSU&s=ZvIooA9RYnJYitjMQRpEQ0xerf1pt3Dm_bRPhEuDniE&e=" target="_blank">https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/what-is-a-mathematical-concept/notes-on-the-syntax-and-semantics-distinction-or-three-moments-in-the-life-of-the-mathematical-drawing/95FC242F34EBC88DC3D6749A2E4A6F31</a>.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)">Best,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)">Sam<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 8:46 AM David C. Brock <<a href="mailto:dcb@dcbrock.net" target="_blank">dcb@dcbrock.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Dear All,<div><br></div><div>I’m wondering if you could point me to some references that treat the material and embodied practices — like writing, reading, publishing, lecturing — of people doing mathematics, symbolic logic, and calculation.</div><div><br></div><div>I’m interested particularly in the era *before* the widespread use of electronic computers.</div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><div>
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