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--></style></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>This will be anecdotal instead of ‘researched’, but I was involved intermittently from 1964 through 1991 with HP Böblingen, a few hundred meters from the IBM Sindelfingen plant. I ran an HP division there from the states. I also am the several-hour interviewer of Joel Birnbaum, the only Chief Engineer of both IBM and HP in history, for the Computer History Museum, and co-author of The HP Phenomenon. I did not interview Joel re the German team, but could go back and do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>There was considerable discussion one evening in Böblingen with local HP execs and engineers about the origins of the IBM plant, which as I recall would support your findings. My guess is that we could find living practitioners who could lend considerable insight if we hurry.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Chuck House<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Members <members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org> on behalf of "Ian S. King" <isking@uw.edu><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 12:22 PM<br><b>To: </b>Richard Vahrenkamp <vahrenkamp2@gmx.de><br><b>Cc: </b>sigcis <members@sigcis.org><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [SIGCIS-Members] First information explosion in history<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A few years ago I visited the old IBM facility in Sindelfingen where they had built a very nice museum (since moved to the research facility at Böblingen, where it is far less accessible). I was treated to a presentation about the role of German companies, in particular DEHOMAG, in the foundation of what would become IBM. By their account, the technological contributions of DEHOMAG were significant - they stopped just short of claiming that IBM was originally more a German company than an American one. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Richard, I will be presenting at the Vintage Computer Festival - Berlin this weekend. If you happen to be in attendance it would be a pleasure to make your acquaintance. Regards -- Ian King <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Richard Vahrenkamp <<a href="mailto:vahrenkamp2@gmx.de" target="_blank">vahrenkamp2@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>60 years ago the German sociologist Theo Pirker made the assertion that machinization of information leads to rapid expansion of information volume and to broadening the stream of information. I used this approach in my paper on punch card technology in Germany in the recent issue of the German journal Technikgeschichte. I showed how the introduction of punched cards induced the first information explosion in history. Further I raised some doubts on the current view that the industry in the United States were leading in the application of punched cards based control systems. I showed that in Germany the industry reached the same level of punched cards based control systems as in the United States. On your demand I can provide an English translation of my paper as a working paper 1/2017. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>With kind regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Richard Vahrenkamp<o:p></o:p></p><pre>********************************************<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Prof. Dr. Richard Vahrenkamp<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Logistik Consulting Berlin<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Phone 0177- 628 3325<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>E-Mail: <a href="mailto:Vahrenkamp2016@gmx.de" target="_blank">Vahrenkamp2016@gmx.de</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Web: <a href="http://www.vahrenkamp.org" target="_blank">www.vahrenkamp.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Trendelenburgstr. 16<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>14057 Berlin<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>*********************************************<o:p></o:p></pre></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>This email is relayed from members at <a href="http://sigcis.org" target="_blank">sigcis.org</a>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at <a href="http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/" target="_blank">http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/</a> and you can change your subscription options at <a href="http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org" target="_blank">http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate<br><a href="http://ischool.uw.edu" target="_blank">The Information School</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical Narrative Through a Design Lens<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Principal Investigator, "<span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Reflections on Early Computing and Social Change", UW IRB #42619</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Archivist, <a href="http://tribunalvoices.org" target="_blank">Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://vsdesign.org" target="_blank">Value Sensitive Design Research Lab</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>University of Washington<br><br><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:#424242'>There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#424242'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________ This email is relayed from members at sigcis.org, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. 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