<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Maybe the document should be something like a friend-of-court brief that is provided to the defense attorney rather than a public document and the court if the case ever goes to court.  There is plenty of time for public documents later.  I would think that passing Tom's list below to the defense attorney would already be useful.</div><div>Best regards, Dave</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> <a href="http://walden-family.com/bbn/email-invention.html">http://walden-family.com/bbn/email-invention.html</a> (not updated in several years)</span><br></div><div><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jan 5, 2017, at 7:46 AM, "Thomas Haigh" <<a href="mailto:thomas.haigh@gmail.com">thomas.haigh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sounds like good idea. I’m busy with some other projects right now, and in any event it would be good to have somebody else take the lead on this for a while – make it more apparent to casual observers that there is a consensus in the history of computing community on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Here are some resources that might be useful for someone thinking of writing on this issue:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">               </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://www.sigcis.org/ayyadurai">http://www.sigcis.org/ayyadurai</a>  - my main page (includes links to various video and media content that would look good in a blog post, including a Xerox video). This tries to document and evaluate every historical claim made by Ayyadurai. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">               </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://www.tomandmaria.com/Tom/Writing/CACM-SevenLessons.pdf">http://www.tomandmaria.com/Tom/Writing/CACM-SevenLessons.pdf</a> my CACM article with lessons to be learned from the initial part of the case. This is more of a general reflection on what was going on from a media narrative viewpoint.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">               </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://www.inventorofemail.com/">http://www.inventorofemail.com/</a>  Ayyadurai’s own site<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">               </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://www.bostonmagazine.com/2012/05/shiva-ayyaduri-email-us-postal-service/">http://www.bostonmagazine.com/2012/05/shiva-ayyaduri-email-us-postal-service/</a>   Boston globe article – not 100% reliable, but if you read to the end carefully you’ll get the right idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">               </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140901/07280928386/huffpo-publishes-bizarre-misleading-factually-incorrect-multi-part-series-pretending-guy-invented-email-even-though-he-didnt.shtml">https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140901/07280928386/huffpo-publishes-bizarre-misleading-factually-incorrect-multi-part-series-pretending-guy-invented-email-even-though-he-didnt.shtml</a>  One of a number of solid Techdirt posts debunking Ayyadurai, this one dealing with the 2014 effort to push a misleading “History of Email” series focused exclusively on Ayyadurai.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">               </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=shiva+ayyadurai" target="_blank">https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=shiva+ayyadurai</a><b>.</b></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Other Techdirt posts from this link, including one quoting me: <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140903/18514728409/huffington-post-finally-responds-stands-its-completely-bogus-totally-debunked-history-email-series.shtml">https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140903/18514728409/huffington-post-finally-responds-stands-its-completely-bogus-totally-debunked-history-email-series.shtml</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">               </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/omblog/post/origins-of-e-mail-my-mea-culpa/2012/03/01/gIQAiOD5kR_blog.html">https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/omblog/post/origins-of-e-mail-my-mea-culpa/2012/03/01/gIQAiOD5kR_blog.html</a>  Washington Post ombudsman admitting that the story was unfounded<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">               </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://www.tomandmaria.com/Tom/Writing/HistoriesOfTheInternetDRAFT.pdf">http://www.tomandmaria.com/Tom/Writing/HistoriesOfTheInternetDRAFT.pdf</a>  Introduction to special issue of I&C on Internet History in which we mention Ayyadurai’s case as an example of an attempt to fill in the gap between people’s ordinary experience and the ARPANET story. Example of a way to acknowledge appeal of the Ayyadurai narrative without endorsing its claims.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Resources on the actual history of email include<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Janet Abbate’s <i>Inventing the Internet</i><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Craig Partridge’s Annals paper, “The Technical Development of Internet Email.” This is the best overview of the actual development of modern email. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">My chapter in The Internet and American Business has some material on non-Internet email and how it was eventually assimilated: <a href="http://www.tomandmaria.com/Tom/Writing/ProtocolsForProfitDRAFT.pdf">http://www.tomandmaria.com/Tom/Writing/ProtocolsForProfitDRAFT.pdf</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Members [mailto:members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christine Finn<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 05, 2017 9:09 AM<br><b>To:</b> David Golumbia <<a href="mailto:dgolumbia@gmail.com">dgolumbia@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Sigcis <<a href="mailto:members@sigcis.org">members@sigcis.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Shiva/Gawker, also AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I'd be happy to help with this. If we can craft something I'd be pleased to help reach a wider audience. I am already in touch with the UK Sunday Times - I contribute to them - and can make time to help with this, I don't have the tech expertise you all have, but can tell the story for the general public.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">all best<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Christine <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 5 January 2017 at 09:56, David Golumbia <<a href="mailto:dgolumbia@gmail.com" target="_blank">dgolumbia@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">"This is a historic victory for truth," declared Dr. Ayyadurai. "Americans have no tolerance for fake news, lies<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">i mean, it's by far not the most offensive part of this story, but this statement leapt out at me--you coulda fooled me, and PT Barnum, and every "reality show" producer, and Facebook, and, and...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="hoenzb"><span style="color:#888888">-- </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">David Golumbia<br><a href="mailto:dgolumbia@gmail.com" target="_blank">dgolumbia@gmail.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>_______________________________________________<br>This email is relayed from members at <a href="http://sigcis.org" target="_blank">sigcis.org</a>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at <a href="http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/" target="_blank">http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/</a> and you can change your subscription options at <a href="http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org" target="_blank">http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>This email is relayed from members at <a href="http://sigcis.org">sigcis.org</a>, the email discussion list of SHOT SIGCIS. Opinions expressed here are those of the member posting and are not reviewed, edited, or endorsed by SIGCIS. The list archives are at <a href="http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/">http://lists.sigcis.org/pipermail/members-sigcis.org/</a> and you can change your subscription options at <a href="http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org">http://lists.sigcis.org/listinfo.cgi/members-sigcis.org</a></span></div></blockquote></body></html>