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    Tom,<br>
      As I remember from the last round, the disagreement seemed to be
    over the definition of "email", wasn't it?  I don't think there was
    a denial that messages were sent between computer terminals prior to
    the plucky young contributor's work, but that only after that point
    did the technology truly deserve the appellation "EMAIL", as
    allegedly proven by the grant of copyright?<br>
      It does seem like there's been a certain fluidity in choosing
    whether the argument of the day is based on the name or the
    functional characteristics...<br>
      But a refutation might want to consider both factors, i.e.,
    evidence that the term email was in wide use, and that the claimed
    functionality (beyond just sending a message, although I don't
    remember what it was) was in use prior to the alleged invention.<br>
    /guy<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/5/2017 12:56 PM, Thomas Haigh
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks
            Dave,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The
            other advice I have for anyone commenting on this case is to
            keep the argument simple.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There
            are a lot of invention controversies along the lines of “Big
            famous company X says that it invented technology Y in (date
            2), but actually plucky inventor Z had previously come up
            with the same technology in (date 1). Because date 1 is
            earlier than date 2 we should remember plucky inventor Z as
            the true inventor of Y, despite the PR and legal resources
            of company X which denied him recognition.” That’s the
            narrative that Ayyadurai is telling about himself, and
            reporters are liable to turn it into an Ayyadurai vs.
            Tomlinson contest. Discussion of such claims head in the
            direction of debates on whether plucky inventor Z’s simple
            prototype really counts as inventing the technology.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">What’s
            different about this case is that plucky inventor Z claims
            to have invented email in either 1980 or, more recently, in
            1978 (and has shown code snippets that appears to come from
            1982). Whereas historians already knew that simple
            electronic mail systems were in use at MIT in 1965, that
            electronic mail was sent over what became the Internet in
            1971, that spam was sent in 1978, that Xerox had a
            recognizably modern GUI client by that time etc. So the
            features of Ayyadurai’s system are not the important thing
            in assessing his claim to be “the inventor of email.” I have
            no reason to doubt that he produced a perfectly good local
            email system. But Ayyadurai is only “the inventor of email”
            if nothing done prior to 1978 (or 1980 or 1982) was email.
             In other words, he’s trying to use the classic “plucky
            suppressed inventor” narrative even though his date 1 is
            many years later than the established date 2.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">To
            rebut this claim one doesn’t need to designate any
            individual as THE inventor of email, merely to reiterate the
            historical consensus that email is a synonym for electronic
            mail and that electronic mail was in use prior to 1978 (or
            1980 or 1982). However smart and likeable you are, you can’t
            invent something that’s already been invented.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best
            wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dave.walden.family@gmail.com">dave.walden.family@gmail.com</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dave.walden.family@gmail.com">mailto:dave.walden.family@gmail.com</a>] <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 05, 2017 10:02 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Thomas Haigh <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thomas.haigh@gmail.com"><thomas.haigh@gmail.com></a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Christine Finn
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:christine.finn@gmail.com"><christine.finn@gmail.com></a>; David Golumbia
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dgolumbia@gmail.com"><dgolumbia@gmail.com></a>; Sigcis
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:members@sigcis.org"><members@sigcis.org></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Resources on
                Ayyadurai saga<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Maybe the document should be something
            like a friend-of-court brief that is provided to the defense
            attorney rather than a public document and the court if the
            case ever goes to court.  There is plenty of time for public
            documents later.  I would think that passing Tom's list
            below to the defense attorney would already be useful.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Best regards, Dave<o:p></o:p></p>
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                href="http://walden-family.com/bbn/email-invention.html">http://walden-family.com/bbn/email-invention.html</a>
              (not updated in several years)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
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