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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sounds like good idea. I’m busy with some other projects right now, and in any event it would be good to have somebody else take the lead on this for a while – make it more apparent to casual observers that there is a consensus in the history of computing community on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Here are some resources that might be useful for someone thinking of writing on this issue:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>               </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.sigcis.org/ayyadurai">http://www.sigcis.org/ayyadurai</a>  - my main page (includes links to various video and media content that would look good in a blog post, including a Xerox video). This tries to document and evaluate every historical claim made by Ayyadurai. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>               </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.tomandmaria.com/Tom/Writing/CACM-SevenLessons.pdf">http://www.tomandmaria.com/Tom/Writing/CACM-SevenLessons.pdf</a> my CACM article with lessons to be learned from the initial part of the case. This is more of a general reflection on what was going on from a media narrative viewpoint.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>               </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.inventorofemail.com/">http://www.inventorofemail.com/</a>  Ayyadurai’s own site<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>               </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.bostonmagazine.com/2012/05/shiva-ayyaduri-email-us-postal-service/">http://www.bostonmagazine.com/2012/05/shiva-ayyaduri-email-us-postal-service/</a>   Boston globe article – not 100% reliable, but if you read to the end carefully you’ll get the right idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>               </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140901/07280928386/huffpo-publishes-bizarre-misleading-factually-incorrect-multi-part-series-pretending-guy-invented-email-even-though-he-didnt.shtml">https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140901/07280928386/huffpo-publishes-bizarre-misleading-factually-incorrect-multi-part-series-pretending-guy-invented-email-even-though-he-didnt.shtml</a>  One of a number of solid Techdirt posts debunking Ayyadurai, this one dealing with the 2014 effort to push a misleading “History of Email” series focused exclusively on Ayyadurai.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>               </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=shiva+ayyadurai" target="_blank">https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=shiva+ayyadurai</a><b>.</b></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Other Techdirt posts from this link, including one quoting me: <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140903/18514728409/huffington-post-finally-responds-stands-its-completely-bogus-totally-debunked-history-email-series.shtml">https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140903/18514728409/huffington-post-finally-responds-stands-its-completely-bogus-totally-debunked-history-email-series.shtml</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>               </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/omblog/post/origins-of-e-mail-my-mea-culpa/2012/03/01/gIQAiOD5kR_blog.html">https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/omblog/post/origins-of-e-mail-my-mea-culpa/2012/03/01/gIQAiOD5kR_blog.html</a>  Washington Post ombudsman admitting that the story was unfounded<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:25.5pt;text-indent:-25.5pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>               </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.tomandmaria.com/Tom/Writing/HistoriesOfTheInternetDRAFT.pdf">http://www.tomandmaria.com/Tom/Writing/HistoriesOfTheInternetDRAFT.pdf</a>  Introduction to special issue of I&C on Internet History in which we mention Ayyadurai’s case as an example of an attempt to fill in the gap between people’s ordinary experience and the ARPANET story. Example of a way to acknowledge appeal of the Ayyadurai narrative without endorsing its claims.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Resources on the actual history of email include<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>         </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Janet Abbate’s <i>Inventing the Internet</i><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>         </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Craig Partridge’s Annals paper, “The Technical Development of Internet Email.” This is the best overview of the actual development of modern email. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>         </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>My chapter in The Internet and American Business has some material on non-Internet email and how it was eventually assimilated: http://www.tomandmaria.com/Tom/Writing/ProtocolsForProfitDRAFT.pdf.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Members [mailto:members-bounces@lists.sigcis.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christine Finn<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 05, 2017 9:09 AM<br><b>To:</b> David Golumbia <dgolumbia@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Sigcis <members@sigcis.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Shiva/Gawker, also AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I'd be happy to help with this. If we can craft something I'd be pleased to help reach a wider audience. I am already in touch with the UK Sunday Times - I contribute to th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