<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Flowcharting was borrowed from industrial engineering. You can find examples in textbooks of the era. Henry Leffingwell's writings on office management have some interesting diagrams that could be considered precursors to flowcharting but they were almost certainly not known to Goldstine et al. I would suggest looking at the Log for the penn differential analyzer or the Ucla differential analyzer to see if they treated problems the same way. <br><br><div>_______________</div><div>David Alan Grier<span style="font-size: 13pt;"> </span></div><div>George Washington University</div><div><br></div><div>Sent from m<span style="font-size: 13pt;">y iPhone </span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Apr 19, 2015, at 4:03 AM, Willard McCarty <<a href="mailto:willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk">willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>I'd be most grateful for pointers to very early flowcharting under any name -- esp. prior to Herman Goldstine and John von Neumann, who called flowcharts "flow diagrams", in "Planning and Coding of Problems for an Electronic Computing Instrument", Part II, Vol. I (1947). This document is available for download from the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton. Martin Campbell-Kelly, in "From Theory to Practice: The Invention of Programming, 1947-51", p. 27, says that the term is "completely original" with Goldstine and von Neumann.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Another teasing question is what flowcharting, under any name, has to do with the phrase "think out of the box". Any clues?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Yours,</span><br><span>WM</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 18/04/2015 22:58, Bjorn Westergard wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>There was some chatter about this during the Dearborn conference.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm struggling to recall where, but I've seen some "flowcharts" for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>semi-automatic computation with single-operation IBM machines.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Flowcharts have a longer history in industrial engineering, which is a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>tantalizing connection to labor history labor process theory.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my iPhone</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Apr 18, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Paul Fishwick <<a href="mailto:metaphorz@gmail.com">metaphorz@gmail.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:metaphorz@gmail.com">mailto:metaphorz@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I recently listened to a podcast on Pickering's human-intensive computing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for processing astronomical data. Here is a wiki page that contains an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>overview and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>photograph from 1890:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Computers">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Computers</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am seeking diagrammatic workflow models of the types of computation</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that occurred</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>under Pickering's direction, but more generally, any articles or texts</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that contain such</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>diagrams for human computing. I am familiar with modern formalisms</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>such as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>BPMN: <a href="http://www.bpmn.org/">http://www.bpmn.org/</a> in which business workflows might be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>formalized. I also have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>read Grier's excellent book:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.amazon.com/When-Computers-Human-David-Grier/dp/0691091579/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429392009&sr=8-1&keywords=when+computers+were+human">http://www.amazon.com/When-Computers-Human-David-Grier/dp/0691091579/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429392009&sr=8-1&keywords=when+computers+were+human</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://www.amazon.com/When-Computers-Human-David-Grier/dp/0691091579/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429392009&sr=8-1&keywords=when+computers+were+human">http://www.amazon.com/When-Computers-Human-David-Grier/dp/0691091579/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429392009&sr=8-1&keywords=when+computers+were+human</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The history and cultural context is interesting to me, and most</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>appropriate for engaging</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>readers, however, the main end-point in this story-telling process,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for me, is for people to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>appreciate the path toward the diagrammatic formalisms with their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>nodes, merges, branches, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>connections.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>If I need to, I can embark on a path toward creating some models with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the written historical</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>accounts as a guide, but I thought that checking here would be the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>best starting location in this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>quest for diagrammatic evidence.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>-paul</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Paul Fishwick, PhD</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Chair, ACM SIGSIM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Distinguished University Chair of Arts & Technology</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and Professor of Computer Science</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Director, Creative Automata Laboratory</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The University of Texas at Dallas</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Arts & Technology</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>800 West Campbell Road, AT10</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Richardson, TX 75080-3021</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Home: <a href="http://utdallas.edu/atec/fishwick">utdallas.edu/atec/fishwick</a> <<a href="http://utdallas.edu/atec/fishwick">http://utdallas.edu/atec/fishwick</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Lab Blog: <a href="http://creative-automata.com">creative-automata.com</a> <<a href="http://creative-automata.com">http://creative-automata.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>SIGSIM Blog: <a href="http://modelingforeveryone.com">modelingforeveryone.com</a> <<a href="http://modelingforeveryone.com">http://modelingforeveryone.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 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