<div dir="ltr"><div>Nice call on the song, Paul. </div><div><br></div><div>We might add this classic as something to belt out at our secretive, world-shaping meetings:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD3FN0Ah4RE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD3FN0Ah4RE</a></div>

<div><br></div><div>To go along with Janet's proposed secret handshake, perhaps a hidden signal known only to the computer historians of the mail cabal: a double-click on nose? </div><div><br></div><div>As for Tom's Haigh's excellent notion of a secret lair, could CBI or the Computer History Museum swing a National Science Foundation grant for a volcano base or a castle in Switzerland? </div>

<div><br></div><div>Or, daresay, a .bat cave?</div><div><br></div><div>--AMM</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --<br>Andrew Meade McGee<br>Corcoran Department of History<br>

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Ceruzzi, Paul <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:CeruzziP@si.edu" target="_blank">CeruzziP@si.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">






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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Julie Cohn<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The email saga continues<br>
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The first rule of Mail Cabal is: you do not talk about Mail Cabal. The second rule of Mail Cabal is: you DO NOT talk about Mail Cabal!</div>
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p.s. I hope we can agree on the secret official movie – "You've Got Mail."</div>
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<div>On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Julie Cohn wrote:</div>
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<div>Julie Cohn, Ph.D.<br>
Research Historian<br>
Center for Public History<br>
University of Houston<br>
315 McElhinney Hall<br>
Houston, TX 77204-3007<br>
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<div>On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Janet Abbate wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">I suggest we drive around in cabal cars and lay an undersea cabal for our secret messages. Or we could just kick cabal around…<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">hard to pull off on an open and publically archived email list. But if we<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">is allegedly making by distorting email history and use it to rent a rather<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:members-bounces@sigcis.org" target="_blank">
members-bounces@sigcis.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:members-bounces@sigcis.org" target="_blank">members-bounces@sigcis.org</a>] On<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 11:48 AM<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The email saga continues<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">historian, but I do so hope I'm a genuine member of the " Internet cabal of<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:30 PM<br>
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