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<br><div><div>On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Janet Abbate wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>We need a secret cabal handshake. I suggest the SSL protocol.<br><br>Janet<br><br>On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:45 32PM, Paul N. Edwards wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">As the silliness level mounts, let me contribute: <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I suggest we drive around in cabal cars and lay an undersea cabal for our secret messages. Or we could just kick cabal around…<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">P<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 3, 2014, at 13:04 , Thomas Haigh <<a href="mailto:thaigh@computer.org">thaigh@computer.org</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hmm. A cabal obviously would focus on secret conspiracy, which is always<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">hard to pull off on an open and publically archived email list. But if we<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">threw in some exotic rituals and perhaps a little human sacrifice then we<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">might still make the grade. I guess we could take some of the billions BBN<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">is allegedly making by distorting email history and use it to rent a rather<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">nice subterranean lair and a set of exotic dark costumes to wear while<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">conducting official cabal business.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Tom<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:members-bounces@sigcis.org">members-bounces@sigcis.org</a> [mailto:members-bounces@sigcis.org] On<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Behalf Of McMillan, William W<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 11:48 AM<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: members<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The email saga continues<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Let it go, Dag? Are you kidding? I might be, at best, an amateur<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">historian, but I do so hope I'm a genuine member of the " Internet cabal of<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">SIGCIS 'historians' "!<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I've never been in a cabal before, but I doubt cabal members let things go.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">We must do something cabal-ish.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">... if we know what that would be.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bill<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">________________________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:members-bounces@sigcis.org">members-bounces@sigcis.org</a> [<a href="mailto:members-bounces@sigcis.org">members-bounces@sigcis.org</a>] on behalf of<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Dag Spicer [<a href="mailto:dspicer@computerhistory.org">dspicer@computerhistory.org</a>]<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:30 PM<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: members<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [SIGCIS-Members] The email saga continues<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">If you were to start critiquing items appearing in the HuffPo, you would<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">have a lifetime of work ahead of you.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Fortunately for us, their very name reeks of triviality and marginal<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">journalism-even a high school student wouldn't cite them in a paper.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Let it go.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Dag<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Dag Spicer<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Senior Curator<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Computer History Museum<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Editorial Board, IEEE Annals of the History of Computing<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">1401 North Shoreline Boulevard<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Mountain View, CA 94043-1311<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Tel: +1 650 810 1035<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Fax: +1 650 810 1055<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Twitter: @ComputerHistory<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 3, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Evan Koblentz<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:evan@snarc.net">evan@snarc.net</a><<a href="mailto:evan@snarc.net">mailto:evan@snarc.net</a>>> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">HuffPo is now claiming that everyone else -- they even mention SIGCIS -- are<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the ones with the agenda and conspiracy!<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deborah-j-nightingale/the-history-of-email-fiv">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deborah-j-nightingale/the-history-of-email-fiv</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">e-myths-about-email_b_5756340.html<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 09/03/2014 11:50 AM, Brian Randell wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Techdirt has an article "Why Is Huffington Post Running A Multi-Part Series<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To Promote The Lies Of A Guy Who Pretended To Invent Email?"<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">at:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140901/07280928386/huffpo-publishes-biza">https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140901/07280928386/huffpo-publishes-biza</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">rre-misleading-factually-incorrect-multi-part-series-pretending-guy-invented<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-email-even-though-he-didnt.shtml<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cheers<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Brian Randell<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">7RU<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">EMAIL = <a 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