[SIGCIS-Members] possible SIGCIS glitch

[Win Treese]

I suspect this is a side effect of some recent tightening in handling mail headers by the big email providers like Google, because of spam. The “From” line email address ends up having to be the list name, because the list server appears to be the one originating the email. As far as I can tell, different email clients are handling it a bit differently, and may or may not have been updated to deal with how to display the email sender information better.

This breaks with decades of email behavior on the net, but old-school email lists like this are small relative to the overall volume of email and spam.

Best,

Win

Win Treese
win at treese.org <mailto:win at treese.org>

> On Apr 16, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Troy Astarte via Members <members at lists.sigcis.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi David 
> 
> Are you using the MacOS mail app? I get a similarly weird thing when I try to write things to the list but it switches up which alias is used with me. It definitely has been Coopersmith, but at the moment, it’s showing me Hsu! I don’t think I’ve seen it in messages from the list. 
> 
> My working theory was that it’s to do with how the Mac app handles addressing but maybe I should try to investigate further...
> 
> <Screenshot 2024-04-16 at 16.25.08.png>
> Best,
> 
> Dr. Troy Kaighin Astarte (they/them / nhw) 
>  
> Lecturer, Computer Science / Darlithydd, Cyfrifiadureg 
> Swansea University / Prifysgol Abertawe 
>  
> For students: my drop in hours are on the Intranet (office CoFo 407)
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> 
>  
> Every email has a cost to the climate. Please think before sending short emails.
> Mae gan bob e-bost gost i’r hinsawdd. Meddyliwch cyn i chi anfon e-byst byr.  
> 
> Due to RSI sometimes I’ll need to dictate messages and they might come out a bit weird. Thanks for your patience. 
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2024, at 13:28, David Dunning <dunningd at sas.upenn.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Swansea University. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. 
>> 
>> RHYBUDD: Daeth yr e-bost hwn o'r tu allan i Brifysgol Abertawe. Peidiwch â chlicio ar atodiadau neu agor atodiadau oni bai eich bod chi'n adnabod yr anfonwr a'ch bod yn gwybod bod y cynnwys yn ddiogel.
>> Hi Troy, 
>> 
>> Are you still the SIGCIS list manager? If so I thought I’d mention a weird glitch in case you hear from others that it’s happening on the SIGCIS end: for the past week or two, every message on the list has come through with sender “Jonathan Coopersmith via Members.” (It took me a couple posts to realize Jonathan hadn’t simply become an exceptionally active list member!)
>> 
>> I suspect it’s an issue with my mail app, but figured I’d share the info just in case it comes up with anyone else!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> David
>> 
>> -- 
>> David E. Dunning (he/him)
>> Lecturer
>> Integrated Studies Program
>> History and Sociology of Science
>> University of Pennsylvania
>>  
>> dunningd at sas.upenn.edu
>> davidedunning.com
>> 
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