[SIGCIS-Members] faxing, covid, and printout v faxing confusion

[Johannah Rodgers]

Thank you everyone for this fascinating thread!  I did not know about the
histories and fate of the Internet Fax project and I am very grateful to
know about this and the RFC 2542 document.

All best and thanks,

Johannah

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 7:03 PM Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Larry,
>
> Note the irony that you cited a document whose canonical version is a
> plain text file written in a typewriter-compatible font and suitable for
> printing on an obsolete type of printer such as a good old Diabolo (
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5bodpSsFl8).
>
> The RFC system graduated to XML as its canonical format with HTML as the
> preferred rendering, but only in October 2019:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8651 .
>
> Regards
>    Brian Carpenter
>
> On 24-Sep-21 05:37, Larry Masinter wrote:
> > RFC 2542 - Terminology and Goals for Internet Fax (ietf.org) <
> https://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc2542>
> >
> >
> >
> > In 1999, this was an attempt to describe what fax was and why anyone on
> the internet would care (or not).
> >
> > These days, you can  hold a piece of paper to your camera in a zoom call.
> >
> > --
> >
> > https://LarryMasinter.net <https://LarryMasinter.net>
> https://interlisp.org <https://interlisp.org>
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Members <members-bounces at lists.sigcis.org> *On Behalf Of
> *Armando Fox
> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2021 8:49 AM
> > *To:* Jonathan Coopersmith <j-coopersmith at tamu.edu>
> > *Cc:* SIGCIS <members at sigcis.org>
> > *Subject:* Re: [SIGCIS-Members] faxing, covid, and printout v faxing
> confusion
> >
> >
> >
> > thanks, this was a darkly amusing article.  i'm teaching a
> technology-and-society freshman seminar this semester (digitalquandary.org
> <http://digitalquandary.org>) and in open discussion last week a student
> asked
> about how healthcare is often the last major sector to adopt IT
> innovation.  the article is an excellent example of that and i'll pass it
> along, even though these students were born well after the decline of fax.
> >
> >
> >
> > btw - i read jonathan's "Faxed" book last year and it was great and
> highly informative - definitely a worthwhile addition to my bookshelf of
> tech history.  definitely recommended!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Armando Fox (he, él, il, lui)
> > Professor, Computer Science Division • Faculty Advisor, Digital Learning
> Strategy
> >
> > Associate Dean for Online Education, Division of Computing, Data Science
> & Society
> >
> > CS Diversity Officer, College of Engineering Equity Council, Campus
> Equity Advisor
> > 390 Soda Hall MC#1776, Berkeley, CA, 94720-1776 • +1.510.642.6820 /
> http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~fox <http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~fox> • PGP/GPG
> key ID: 0x9AD0E747
> >
> > -----
> >
> > Washing your hands after being around others is a personal choice.
> >
> > Getting vaccinated is a choice to be socially responsible.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >     On Sep 23, 2021, at 08:27, Jonathan Coopersmith <
> j-coopersmith at tamu.edu <mailto:j-coopersmith at tamu.edu>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >     At the risk of self-promotion, this might be of interest, if only to
> note the photo with a computer printout and not faxed sheets - I pointed
> out the error to the author
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210903-how-covid-19-could-finally-be-the-end-of-the-fax-machine
> <
> https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210903-how-covid-19-could-finally-be-the-end-of-the-fax-machine
> >
> >
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> >
> >     Stay sane and keep wearing a mask (partially for you; more for
> others),
> >
> >
> >
> >     Jonathan
> >
> >
> >
> >     Jonathan Coopersmith
> >
> >     Professor
> >
> >     Department of History
> >
> >     Texas A&M University
> >
> >     College Station, TX  77843-4236
> >
> >     979.739.4708 (cell)
> >
> >     979.862.4314 (fax)
> >
> >
> >
> >     Voting challenges:
> https://theeagle.com/opinion/columnists/texas-should-be-the-model-for-secure-voting/article_4c35a332-e42c-11eb-b0d8-534c59b58ebe.html
> <
> https://theeagle.com/opinion/columnists/texas-should-be-the-model-for-secure-voting/article_4c35a332-e42c-11eb-b0d8-534c59b58ebe.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     Preserving space archives:  https://www.toboldlypreserve.space/ <
> https://www.toboldlypreserve.space/>
> >
> >
> >
> >     International standards battles:
> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/geek-life/history/lets-thwart-this-terrible-idea-for-standards-setting
> <
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/geek-life/history/lets-thwart-this-terrible-idea-for-standards-setting__;!!KwNVnqRv!R4dbJx9DOnSkoiNAwXjHq9sp5vMvdGEVtOMlWJUc6AH7iQiRA7bw1VEUYeo6i2St9sgf$
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     /FAXED.  The Rise and Fall of the Fax Machine/ (Johns Hopkins
> University Press)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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