[SIGCIS-Members] faxing, covid, and printout v faxing confusion

Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com
Thu Sep 23 16:03:08 PDT 2021


Larry,

Note the irony that you cited a document whose canonical version is a plain text file written in a typewriter-compatible font and suitable for printing on an obsolete type of printer such as a good old Diabolo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5bodpSsFl8).

The RFC system graduated to XML as its canonical format with HTML as the preferred rendering, but only in October 2019: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8651 .

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 24-Sep-21 05:37, Larry Masinter wrote:
> RFC 2542 - Terminology and Goals for Internet Fax (ietf.org) <https://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc2542>
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> In 1999, this was an attempt to describe what fax was and why anyone on 
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> These days, you can  hold a piece of paper to your camera in a zoom call.
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> https://LarryMasinter.net <https://LarryMasinter.net> https://interlisp.org <https://interlisp.org>
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> *From:* Members <members-bounces at lists.sigcis.org> *On Behalf Of *Armando Fox
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> *To:* Jonathan Coopersmith <j-coopersmith at tamu.edu>
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> *Subject:* Re: [SIGCIS-Members] faxing, covid, and printout v faxing confusion
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> thanks, this was a darkly amusing article.  i'm teaching a technology-and-society freshman seminar this semester (digitalquandary.org <http://digitalquandary.org>) and in open discussion last week a student asked 
about how healthcare is often the last major sector to adopt IT innovation.  the article is an excellent example of that and i'll pass it along, even though these students were born well after the decline of fax.
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> btw - i read jonathan's "Faxed" book last year and it was great and highly informative - definitely a worthwhile addition to my bookshelf of tech history.  definitely recommended!
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>     On Sep 23, 2021, at 08:27, Jonathan Coopersmith <j-coopersmith at tamu.edu <mailto:j-coopersmith at tamu.edu>> wrote:
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>     At the risk of self-promotion, this might be of interest, if only to note the photo with a computer printout and not faxed sheets - I pointed out the error to the author
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>        https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210903-how-covid-19-could-finally-be-the-end-of-the-fax-machine <https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210903-how-covid-19-could-finally-be-the-end-of-the-fax-machine>
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>     Stay sane and keep wearing a mask (partially for you; more for others),
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>     /FAXED.  The Rise and Fall of the Fax Machine/ (Johns Hopkins University Press) 
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