[SIGCIS-Members] Query: mobile phones and science fiction

Herb Jellinek jellinek at newscenter.com
Thu Oct 14 08:22:15 PDT 2021


Martin Cooper has since revised his story about Star Trek and the 
inspiration behind the cellular telephone.

 From the Santa Cruz /Good Times/, August 17, 2021 
<https://goodtimes.sc/cover-stories/cell-phone-inventor-martin-cooper/>, 
in a piece promoting his book /Cutting the Cord/ 
<https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Cutting-the-Cord/Martin-Cooper/9781948122740>:

    In actual fact, it wasn’t /Star Trek/’s communicator that inspired
    the cell phone, but the two-way radio wristwatch that Dick Tracy
    wore in the 1930s comic strip the 92-year-old Cooper read as a kid.
    So who’s responsible for this long-standing lie? Uh, well … Martin
    Cooper.


    “I did it,” Cooper told me in an interview earlier this year. “It’s
    one of the mistakes I made.”

    It’s true. People had assumed that the show/predicted/ the cell
    phone for decades, but it was actually a 2005 TV movie called /How/
    /William Shatner Changed the World/ that first claimed that Cooper
    literally conceived of the cell phone after happening to catch an
    episode of /Star Trek/ on TV one day. Cooper endorsed the story—you
    can still see the clip on YouTube—and he’s been paying for it ever
    since.


Herb Jellinek

On 10/13/21 8:55 PM, Ceruzzi, Paul wrote:
> Cuneo, in the chapter cited above in the Ferro & Swedin edited volume, 
> quotes Martin Cooper, one of the designers of the original Motorola 
> cell phone: " "...And suddenly , there's Captain Kirk talking on his 
> communicator. Talking, with no dialing. That was not a fantasy to 
> us... that was an objective."   He also quotes Rob Haitani, at Palm 
> and later Handspring: "When I designed the UI for the Palm OS back in 
> '93, my first sketches were influenced by the UI of the /Enterprise/​ 
> bridge panels...Years later, when we designed the first [Handspring] 
> Treo, it had a form factor similar to the communicators in the 
> original series."  The Treo's design looks even closer to the 
> communicator than the Motorola flip-phones.
>
> The crew of the ill-fated /Discovery One/​, from /2001, a Space 
> Odyssey/​, used a tablet computer. But also voice recognition & 
> synthesis with HAL; no need for a keyboard. This was in 1968.
>
> Paul Ceruzzi
>
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> Stephen Cass <stephen.cass at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2021 10:11 PM
> *To:* Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* members at lists.sigcis.org <members at lists.sigcis.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [SIGCIS-Members] Query: mobile phones and science fiction
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> >I call foul. The original communicator was in "The Man from 
> U.N.C.L.E." (premiered on September 22, 1964). Star Trek came later 
> (September 8, 1966).
>
> Hah! For sure, but the inventor of the phone watched Star Trek, not 
> the The Man from Uncle :)  This is why we had to toss so many 
> well-worn examples from our book drafts, because we couldn't establish 
> specific links. Teasing out the specific linkages between sci-fi and 
> tech is really tough, because inspiration is so personal to those 
> involved, and barring a direct quote from them, it's hard to be sure 
> about the casual relationships: first in fiction may not mean much. Or 
> even non-fiction: in a related example of the relationship between 
> science and art it's reasonable to suggest Van Gogh's Starry Night was 
> influenced by the drawings of M50 by the Earl of Rosse, because the 
> drawings were widely reproduced and there's some evidence Van Gogh saw 
> them, but we can't say for sure....
>
> S.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 9:34 PM Brian E Carpenter 
> <brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com <mailto:brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     > The mobile phone is actually a classic example, being inspired
>     by Star Trek's communicators
>
>     I call foul. The original communicator was in "The Man from
>     U.N.C.L.E." (premiered on September 22, 1964). Star Trek came
>     later (September 8, 1966).
>
>     I was a fan of "The Man from U.N.C.L.E." before I was a Trekkie.
>
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_from_U.N.C.L.E.#Communications_devices
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>     Regards
>        Brian Carpenter
>
>     On 14-Oct-21 12:45, Stephen Cass wrote:
>     > I'm not an historian, but in my co-author and I have written
>     about the feedback loops between science fiction and technology in
>     parts of our "Hollyweird Science" books, published by Springer (
>     https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783319150710
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>     <https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783319150710
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>     . The mobile phone is actually a classic example, being inspired
>     by Star Trek's communicators, c.f. this Forbes article, which also
>     mentions some other innovations.
>     >
>     >
>     https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelvenables/2013/04/03/captain-kirks-call-to-spock/?sh=368b37f6a92c
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>     >
>     > In an interview with Jason Pontin, then EIC of MIT Technology
>     Review for the 2013 Twelve Tomorrows hard sci-fi anthology (which
>     I edited, so another shameless self-plug, sorry :) ), Neal
>     Stephenson put it very well: "...science fiction can provide a
>     coherent picture of an alternate realty in which some innovation
>     happened. Not just the technical innovation itself, but the social
>     context and the economic context that causes the innovation to
>     make sense. It can be sort of like an invisible magnetic field
>     that gets the iron filings to line up. In big engineering
>     organizations, you've got all these people working on small pieces
>     of a bigger problem, and there's an enormous amount of
>     communication that has to take place to keep them all working in a
>     coordinated fashion. That communication
>     is tedious and expensive, but if everybody's got the same picture
>     in their heads, maybe you don't have to communicate as much."
>     >
>     > Currently, the best academics to talk to are likely at ASU's
>     Center for
>     Science and the Imagination:
>     >
>     > https://csi.asu.edu/about-us/
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>     >
>     > They've done some innovation projects, including the
>     "Hieroglyph: Stories & Visions for a Better Future" anthology and
>     ASU's Threatcasting Lab uses science fiction as a tool for e.g,
>     military and intelligence folks: https://threatcasting.asu.edu/
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>     >
>     > Hope this is of some help!
>     >
>     > S.
>     >
>     >
>     > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 3:29 PM Andrew Russell
>     <arussell at arussell.org <mailto:arussell at arussell.org>
>     <mailto:arussell at arussell.org <mailto:arussell at arussell.org>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi again SIGCIS - please see below, forwarded with
>     permission via Peggy Kidwell -
>     >
>     >>
>     >>     *From:* Baker, Alexi <alexi.baker at yale.edu
>     <mailto:alexi.baker at yale.edu> <mailto:alexi.baker at yale.edu
>     <mailto:alexi.baker at yale.edu>>>
>     >>     *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:14 PM
>     >>     *To:* rete at maillist.ox.ac.uk
>     <mailto:rete at maillist.ox.ac.uk> <mailto:rete at maillist.ox.ac.uk
>     <mailto:rete at maillist.ox.ac.uk>> <rete at maillist.ox.ac.uk
>     <mailto:rete at maillist.ox.ac.uk> <mailto:rete at maillist.ox.ac.uk
>     <mailto:rete at maillist.ox.ac.uk>>>
>     >>     *Subject:* [rete] History of telecommunications / mobile phones
>     >>
>     >>     This is perhaps going a bit far afield in the history of
>     technology, but I have a student who is interested in the history
>     of mobile phones
>     with respect to science fiction. She is in particular interested
>     in how the development of such telecommunications influenced, was
>     represented in,
>     and was influenced by science fiction films. Do any of you happen
>     to know
>     of historians who have focused on the development of mobile phones
>     and/or
>     on the relationship between sci fi and technology in general?
>     >>
>     >>     Many thanks for any suggestions - Alexi
>     >>
>     >>     Dr. Alexi Baker
>     >>     Division of the History of Science & Technology
>     >>     Yale Peabody Museum of Natural History
>     >>     Tel. 203-737-3084
>     >> alexi.baker at yale.edu <mailto:alexi.baker at yale.edu>
>     <mailto:alexi.baker at yale.edu <mailto:alexi.baker at yale.edu>>
>     >
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