[SIGCIS-Members] Question about the Tiltman break in Lorenz cypher (1941)

E. Lazard Emmanuel.Lazard at dauphine.psl.eu
Sun May 23 14:47:29 PDT 2021


Dear all,

I’m looking for some original information on the famous "Tiltman break" which led to the cryptanalysis of the Lorenz cipher en 1941.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptanalysis_of_the_Lorenz_cipher)
(http://www.eprg.org/computerphile/lorenz-combined.pdf)

The story is: the British intercepted two messages sent with the same key (HQIBPEXEZMUG) also called a "depth".
When adding the two cipher texts with the exclusive-or function, the key cancels out and what is left is the exclusive-or of the two plain texts.
From there, brigadier John Tiltman found the two messages by trying various likely pieces of plaintext and found that the first message started with the word SPRUCHNUMMER (message number) and that the second message also used the same word but shortened out as SPRUCHNR.

EVERY SINGLE WEBSITE and the Copeland book "Colossus" list the two intercepted cypher texts as:

C1 = JSH5N ZYMFS 01151 VKU1Y U4NCE JEGPB
C2 = JSH5N ZYZY5 GLFRG XO5SQ 5DA1J JHD5O

	and their exclusive-or as:

D  = ///// //FOU GF14M AQSG5 SEKZR /YWHE

My problem is that IT DOES NOT ADD UP!
The U in 10th position is not the correct result, it should be a V.
(S is 10100, 5 is 11011, so their exclusive-or is 01111 which is V)
And I found other issues with all examples using the cypher text, the messages, the key… I always have several letters which are wrong.

So I’m wondering if I’ve misunderstood something or have the cypher texts been incorrectly written down once and everybody just copied them without checking?

Anybody has genuine information or can point me to some source?

Regards
Emmanuel Lazard


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