[SIGCIS-Members] Fwd: When was first campaign for computer users' freedom

[William McMillan]

OK, now I realize what people are saying -- the menus in UCSD Pascal were
not "drop-down."  Sorry, I'm so used to letting the term trip from my
fingers that I mistyped.

Yes, they were single letter menu commands on a character-based "graphic"
screen.

They did influence the development of drop-down menus at Apple.

- Bill

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Ian S. King <isking at uw.edu> wrote:

> I have 8" floppy media for UCSD Pascal that runs on my MINC-11; I have
> not attempted to run it on other PDP-11s yet.  It behaves as Al
> describes.  -- Ian
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Al Kossow <kossow at computerhistory.org>
> wrote:
> > On 8/13/12 5:12 AM, "William McMillan" <wmcmillan at emich.edu> wrote:
> >
> > UCSD Pascal, BTW, likely embodies the first use of such features as
> > drop-down menus and had a large influence on Apple, which distributed
> UCSD
> > Pascal as Apple Pascal.  Apple employed many of Bowles's students.
> >
> > The original UCSD Pascal Environment which ran on the Terak is
> text-based.
> > You are presented with a list of modes on the top line of the display and
> > type a letter to drop down a level in the hierarchy. This same interface
> was
> > used for the Lisa Pascal Workshop, which is built on top of SVS Pascal, a
> > 68000 native Pascal compiler, instead of the P-Code interpreted UCSD
> system.
> > The original Macintosh applications were built in the Pascal Workshop
> > environment with Macintosh toolbox library extensions until the native
> tool
> > chain was available.
> >
> > The most known Apple employee that came from the UCSD group is Bill
> > Atkinson. Al Hoffman was another, who supported MPW Pascal compiler.
> >
> >
> >
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> --
> Ian S. King, MSCS ('06, Washington)
> Ph.D. Student
> The Information School
> University of Washington
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